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> 1.7L to 2056
sreyemj
post Feb 26 2020, 03:47 PM
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I have a 1.7L motor in my project 914 that needs to be refreshed and I'm thinking of converting it to a 2056 at the same time. This is a somewhat budget build, I'm on a timeline to get it back on the road this summer and as a student there's no way I can justify buying a 9k kit. After looking through quite a few threads on the subject, I'm considering having the case line bored and checked by Tims ACVW in Kent, WA (or maybe there is someone else in Washington State I should consider?). I would prefer to assemble the engine myself if I have time (depending on the rest of the car), otherwise I'll have it assembled.

FAT/Rimco have a 2056 short block kit including pistons and cylinders for $1800 and 1.7L head exchange with 42x36mm valves for $1600. I'm not sure than includes opening the heads up for 96mm cylinders. The FC 442 camshaft looks to be more for carbs, I'm thinking I may want a different camshaft so I can stay with my stock D-jet. Anyone have any experience or input on the FAT/Rimco kit or heads? Is there another option I should consider at the price point?

Short block kit:
https://fatperformance-rimco.com/products/t...short-block-kit

Heads:
https://fatperformance-rimco.com/collection...-heads-exchange
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post Feb 27 2020, 06:13 AM
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This is really good read. Seems like you already know most of this, but Jake puts it all in one place well organized: http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?s=&...t&p=1529209

I bought a machined (align bored, decked) case from Jesco a couple of years ago (it then went to Michigan and McMark turned it into a 2258. It's on my garage floor waiting to go into my car when spring comes (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) ). His machining skills appear to be epic, and he seemed like a really good guy in the few interactions I had with him. He's not that active here, but you can PM him I'm sure.

I built a 2056 from a 1.7L last year. I didn't go "exotic," but I also didn't cut any corners. I spent over $5K in parts and services, including (biggest ticket items):

1. Brand new 2.0 AA (ceramic coated) heads built by Len Hoffman: $1700
2. Raby 9950 Cam kit: $950
3. P&C: roughly $500 (my records are screwed up here because I swapped from valve relief JE to flat top KB at the end, and I don't seem to have cost on the KB pistons)
4. 2.0 H beam connection rods: $300
5. 71mm crankshaft $300
6. New pushrod tubes: $100
7. Case machining, flywheel resurfacing, parts balancing, etc. $400
8. Rocker machining and miscellaneous tools, shims, etc.: $250

etc. etc.

You can definitely do it way cheaper, and I know you're on a budget, but I am curious as to what is reasonable economical rebuild (obviously depends on what you can reuse). When I did this rebuild my thought process was "don't skimp ANYWHERE."

Right now I've got a 2 liter on an engine stand partially torn down. I'm toying with trying to do an economical rebuild on it, just for fun. My thought process on this one would be "I don't want to spend $5K on an engine I don't need."
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post Feb 27 2020, 06:25 AM
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QUOTE(BeatNavy @ Feb 27 2020, 06:13 AM) *

1. Brand new 2.0 AA (ceramic coated) heads built by Len Hoffman: $1700

Good info, I've read that thread and it's definitely helpful. Are the $1700 Hoffman heads actually available somewhere? I thought they were over 3k now.

It's definitely easier to do a build for 5k, but that's really pushing it for my budget.
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sreyemj   1.7L to 2056   Feb 26 2020, 03:47 PM
Nogoodwithusernames   I have a 1.7L motor in my project 914 that needs ...   Feb 26 2020, 05:19 PM
Dion   I was fortunate to start with a 2.0 block. Here is...   Feb 26 2020, 07:09 PM
Chris914n6   You can do a 1911 and only need the 96mm P&C. ...   Feb 26 2020, 08:29 PM
sreyemj   You can do a 1911 and only need the 96mm P&C....   Feb 26 2020, 10:22 PM
barefoot   I had my 2L case line bored by John Slack in Olymp...   Feb 26 2020, 08:53 PM
BeatNavy   This is really good read. Seems like you already ...   Feb 27 2020, 06:13 AM
sreyemj   1. Brand new 2.0 AA (ceramic coated) heads built ...   Feb 27 2020, 06:25 AM
Bleyseng   This is really good read. Seems like you already...   Feb 27 2020, 12:26 PM
BeatNavy   I went back and found my HAM invoice, and it's...   Feb 27 2020, 06:44 AM
BeatNavy   I just checked Len's website: https://newsite....   Feb 27 2020, 06:48 AM
rbzymek   sreyemj, You may want to consider a 2056 SCAT long...   Feb 27 2020, 09:21 AM
914_teener   What induction will you be using? The stock FI 1....   Feb 27 2020, 03:35 PM
sreyemj   I just checked Len's website: [url=https://ne...   Feb 27 2020, 08:38 PM
mepstein   I just checked Len's website: [url=https://n...   Feb 27 2020, 08:42 PM
BeatNavy   Sweet, glad you got in contact with Len. You can ...   Feb 27 2020, 08:45 PM
914_teener   Sweet, glad you got in contact with Len. You can...   Feb 27 2020, 09:18 PM
sreyemj   What Rob said. Figure ablut 1k for a 2.0 setup ...   Feb 27 2020, 11:00 PM
914_teener   What Rob said. Figure ablut 1k for a 2.0 setup...   Feb 28 2020, 09:47 AM
Bleyseng   You need to figure out what HP you want. 2056 w/st...   Feb 27 2020, 09:40 PM
Tdskip   You need to figure out what HP you want. 2056 w/s...   Feb 28 2020, 08:12 PM
Bleyseng   Where are you in Washington as I am in Seattle. We...   Feb 28 2020, 09:40 AM
sreyemj   Where are you in Washington as I am in Seattle. W...   Feb 28 2020, 02:42 PM
Dominic   I have a 1.7L motor in my project 914 that needs ...   Feb 29 2020, 10:11 AM
sreyemj   Just to update the outcome of this thread. I decid...   May 3 2020, 02:14 PM
Bleyseng   that's a great start instead of using 45 year ...   May 3 2020, 02:20 PM
sreyemj   that's a great start instead of using 45 year...   May 3 2020, 03:14 PM
andreic   Here is my experience rebuilding a 1.8L. I bought ...   May 4 2020, 06:02 PM


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