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brcacti
post Mar 5 2020, 04:32 PM
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So from what I have been reading on here if I am right a survivor car is a stock or mostly stock, not restored that is in good or better condition? Does that sound right?
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DickSteinkamp
post Mar 5 2020, 05:57 PM
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Everybody's definition of "survivor" is going to be a little different. This description is closest to mine...

Survivor

"The first rule of survivor cars is their original paint job.

The interior also has to be original to qualify as a survivor car.

The rest of the survivor car rules are pretty simple: it should have its factory power-train front to back and it should have all of its original equipment like spare tire jack and lug wrench"


I think it is next to impossible for a true survivor to be "in as good or better condition" than when it came off the assembly line. Certainly not better...I've seen a few that were as good, but they had few if any miles on them.
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post Mar 5 2020, 07:54 PM
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QUOTE(DickSteinkamp @ Mar 5 2020, 03:57 PM) *

Everybody's definition of "survivor" is going to be a little different. This description is closest to mine...

Survivor

"The first rule of survivor cars is their original paint job.

The interior also has to be original to qualify as a survivor car.

The rest of the survivor car rules are pretty simple: it should have its factory power-train front to back and it should have all of its original equipment like spare tire jack and lug wrench"


I think it is next to impossible for a true survivor to be "in as good or better condition" than when it came off the assembly line. Certainly not better...I've seen a few that were as good, but they had few if any miles on them.


So if its only missing its jack or lug wrench (both of which are replaceable) its now no longer a 'survivor'? I don't think so.

The problem is that the term 'survivor' is too amorphous, vague, ambiguous and arbitrary. It really is a meaningless term because anyone can interpret it to suit their own needs and other interpretations will always get it 'wrong'. Works great in a used car ad because it panders to the sellers needs and is easily misconstrued by buyers. Same with "OG" and even 'factory'. Can we agree to avoid this term 'survivor' on this forum?

"Original" is a slightly better term because its more specific, but even then that word will be stretched by some - because they can - and will.
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brcacti   definition of a survivor car   Mar 5 2020, 04:32 PM
AZBanks   So from what I have been reading on here if I am ...   Mar 5 2020, 04:38 PM
DickSteinkamp   Everybody's definition of "survivor...   Mar 5 2020, 05:57 PM
JeffBowlsby   Everybody's definition of "survivor...   Mar 5 2020, 07:54 PM
brcacti   So if the car is close to new it not only would be...   Mar 5 2020, 06:42 PM
Craigers17   So if the car is close to new it not only would b...   Mar 5 2020, 07:55 PM
Jamie   My 73 1.7L I consider to be a survivor even though...   Mar 5 2020, 07:02 PM
Superhawk996   I thought it was a car that never got voted off th...   Mar 5 2020, 08:02 PM
Mikey914   I think the term survivor will be like shades of g...   Mar 5 2020, 08:45 PM
Tbrown4x4   I wouldn't consider a car kept in storage it...   Mar 6 2020, 03:46 AM
Coondog   Just another stupid word like Outlaw............ :...   Mar 6 2020, 05:40 AM
Unobtanium-inc   Best one I ever had, that will forever hold the go...   Mar 6 2020, 06:35 AM
brcacti   Hello, no, not writing an ad. My car is a survivor...   Mar 6 2020, 04:10 PM
porschetub   I see a survivor as a car that has travelled low t...   Mar 7 2020, 04:23 PM
73-914   just like the term "Frame-off restoration...   Mar 7 2020, 04:43 PM
jagalyn   Survivors are real. I think a lot of cars get ...   Mar 7 2020, 05:49 PM
bbrock   I consider it a 'survivor' because it has...   Mar 7 2020, 11:38 PM
jagalyn   That's pretty much my definition too althoug...   Mar 8 2020, 02:28 PM


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