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> D-Jet Fuel Pressure Regulator, How high should it go?
GregAmy
post Mar 2 2020, 08:38 AM
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What should be the maximum capability of the stock D-Jet pressure regulator? Mine only goes to 36.

If that's normal, is there another similar-format regulator that can go up to around 45psi?

Background: Microsquirt project. Was hoping to use the stock regulator, but now need something that I can easily mount in the same location, if possible. Injectors I'm using are rated at 43.5psi.

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post Mar 9 2020, 11:40 AM
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Quick update... per Summit Racing, MSD has discontinued the MSD-2220.

Rock Auto has the Delphi version, says it's 29psi.

I tried two used ones from Chris; one only got to 34psi, the other had the locking nut stuck so I didn't force it.

NAPA can get me a "FPR for the Porsche 914" but it's special-order only, and they don't know how adjustable it is.

Rock Auto looks like the Delphi version as well, 29psi listed.

I can't find a FPR for the car on Pelican's web site.

I'm guessing that if I'm running more than 35-36 psi I'll have to go aftermarket on the FPR...
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post Mar 9 2020, 11:05 PM
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Didn't have time to tear into one this weekend but from the looks of the diagram im wondering if MSD didnt get to higher pressure via a longer adjustment screw. Would need to measure how much more could be added before the coils bind. From the drawing though I would think you should be able to dead head the pump with a long enough adjustment screw

Not sure when the last production run would have been, but guessing at 50 years old the OE springs may be getting a bit tired.

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Just did a bit more searching... this is an interesting read on the pressure regulator

https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic...s+inside++fails

Cant tell for sure but it looks like the adjustment screw may be a custom part, so swapping may be out of the question. Also looks like new ones from anywhere may have gone NLA sometime over the last couple years and if that post is to be believed these have a high potential for wear that will affect every used one out there.

May be time to look at other options
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Knowing that 914 l-jet regulators are a direct swap (fitment wise) I started exploring what might be out there the the realm of cars that used similar systems.

914 L-jet regulators are non-adjustable, vacuum referenced and is supposed to give ~37-38 with zero vacuum. Those can still be had available new but isnt quite where we want to be...

Vanagon regulators are similar pressure wise


and then by some random luck i stumbled on this...

Bosch 0 280 160 256

vacuum referenced, 3 bar non adjustable. Would need an adapter on the inlet but other than that appears to be externally similar to a stock regulator.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00C818WG...45-cd78f07a84d8

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This has some interesting candidates as well though i am not sure where they can be purchased. FPR 05-40 B (adjustable from 0.5 to 4 bar) and FPR 15-50 are of particular interest.

https://www.bosch-motorsport.com/media/down...minikatalog.pdf
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GregAmy   D-Jet Fuel Pressure Regulator   Mar 2 2020, 08:38 AM
914Sixer   Stock set to run 28-30. In vapor lock areas up to...   Mar 2 2020, 09:31 AM
JeffBowlsby   43.5 PSI is the conversion from 300kPA which is th...   Mar 2 2020, 10:06 AM
GregAmy   You sure your injectors are rated that high for in...   Mar 2 2020, 10:41 AM
nordfisch   - You Posted: Injector Table Hi Jeff, the table...   Mar 2 2020, 02:33 PM
JeffBowlsby   As I thought...thats maximum flow, without a safet...   Mar 2 2020, 11:45 AM
GregAmy   As I thought...thats maximum flow, without a safe...   Mar 2 2020, 11:49 AM
914_teener   As I thought...thats maximum flow, without a saf...   Mar 2 2020, 12:58 PM
GregAmy   I'm confused. Flow and pressure are related h...   Mar 2 2020, 01:19 PM
914_teener   I'm confused. Flow and pressure are related ...   Mar 2 2020, 02:29 PM
ChrisFoley   no problem running these at 36psi and putting in...   Mar 2 2020, 05:56 PM
GregAmy   Why even go up to 36? Calculate the flow at 30psi...   Mar 2 2020, 06:54 PM
JamesM   Was poking around a bit and and found these inject...   Mar 3 2020, 11:50 PM
Bleyseng   The Ljet has a variable fuel pressure regulator to...   Mar 2 2020, 12:16 PM
JeffBowlsby   Hi Norbert, thank you for the Bosch list its very ...   Mar 2 2020, 05:48 PM
nordfisch   ... The Weiss chart was a reference for me back t...   Mar 3 2020, 02:00 PM
JamesM   Higher pressure provides better fuel atomization, ...   Mar 3 2020, 03:46 PM
914_teener   Higher pressure provides better fuel atomization,...   Mar 3 2020, 05:40 PM
JamesM   I know some folds have done MS systems so maybe t...   Mar 3 2020, 07:03 PM
914_teener   I know some folds have done MS systems so maybe ...   Mar 3 2020, 08:17 PM
GregAmy   The OP didn't say if he was going to retain th...   Mar 3 2020, 08:36 PM
914_teener   The OP didn't say if he was going to retain t...   Mar 3 2020, 08:41 PM
JamesM   Whole lotta dick-swinging around here and yet...n...   Mar 3 2020, 11:09 PM
JeffBowlsby   The concern about constant operation at maximum pr...   Mar 3 2020, 04:30 PM
JamesM   The concern about constant operation at maximum p...   Mar 3 2020, 07:52 PM
JamesM   Just remembered I still have the paperwork for min...   Mar 4 2020, 12:07 AM
JamesM   What should be the maximum capability of the stoc...   Mar 4 2020, 01:39 AM
JamesM   Hey, looky what I found.... https://www.injector...   Mar 4 2020, 02:15 AM
JamesM   Found another picture of the MSD 2222 where you ca...   Mar 4 2020, 02:48 AM
GregAmy   Found another picture of the MSD 2222 where you c...   Mar 5 2020, 10:08 AM
JamesM   Found another picture of the MSD 2222 where you ...   Mar 5 2020, 06:30 PM
GregAmy   Still has me curious why you are only seeing ~35. ...   Mar 5 2020, 07:27 PM
GregAmy   Since we're going deeper into the design... A...   Mar 4 2020, 06:19 AM
JamesM   Since we're going deeper into the design... ...   Mar 5 2020, 12:29 AM
GregAmy   Eric, I'm actually starting to "write all...   Mar 5 2020, 06:18 AM
barefoot   Many years ago I had a project to design automotiv...   Mar 4 2020, 06:19 AM
Montreal914   Though amazon is great and showed me this much c...   Mar 5 2020, 12:05 AM
JamesM   [quote name='JamesM' post='2791279' date='Mar 3 2...   Mar 5 2020, 09:38 AM
JeffBowlsby   Check this. "35 gal/hr" Seems a bit ...   Mar 5 2020, 08:14 AM
JamesM   Check this. "35 gal/hr" Seems a bit...   Mar 5 2020, 09:51 AM
JeffBowlsby   Check this. "35 gal/hr" Seems a bit...   Mar 5 2020, 11:03 AM
GregAmy   It's not the pump. I went out there, jumped th...   Mar 5 2020, 07:46 PM
ChrisFoley   I have a few FPRs here. You're welcome to try ...   Mar 6 2020, 06:38 AM
GregAmy   Thank you sir!We're already overdue for a ...   Mar 6 2020, 07:58 AM
JamesM   Thank you sir!We're already overdue for a...   Mar 7 2020, 02:48 AM
Montreal914   Just catching up on the thread this morning. Greg...   Mar 7 2020, 11:03 AM
GregAmy   Quick update... per Summit Racing, MSD has discont...   Mar 9 2020, 11:40 AM
JamesM   Didn't have time to tear into one this weekend...   Mar 9 2020, 11:05 PM
JamesM   Just did a bit more searching... this is an intere...   Mar 10 2020, 12:09 AM
JamesM   Knowing that 914 l-jet regulators are a direct swa...   Mar 10 2020, 12:27 AM
JamesM   This is interesting. In the latest bosch catalog ...   Mar 10 2020, 01:22 AM
JamesM   https://shopbhp.com/products/kit-car-fuel-p...ant=...   Mar 10 2020, 01:49 AM
GregAmy   May be more bad news for d-jet Well crap. I have ...   Mar 10 2020, 06:45 AM
JamesM   May be more bad news for d-jet Well crap. I have...   Mar 10 2020, 09:07 AM
ChrisFoley   Bosch Fuel Pressure Regulator at Pelican   Mar 9 2020, 02:26 PM
GregAmy   And...they're out of stock. Refers me to ...   Mar 9 2020, 04:21 PM
ChrisFoley   You might want to start soaking the three used one...   Mar 9 2020, 06:14 PM
GregAmy   Here's a 3-bar one. eBay ad claims (I think) i...   Mar 10 2020, 07:31 AM
GregAmy   Am I correct in inferring his non-regulator one is...   Mar 10 2020, 09:24 AM
JamesM   Am I correct in inferring his non-regulator one i...   Mar 10 2020, 01:13 PM
GregAmy   Mario's response, paraphrased: This: Univers...   Mar 10 2020, 07:14 PM
ChrisFoley   That's probably what Mario was thinking you wo...   Mar 10 2020, 12:20 PM
GregAmy   His stuff looks nice, but I sent an email him to f...   Mar 10 2020, 12:59 PM
Montreal914   Seems like the way to go!   Mar 10 2020, 09:50 PM
GregAmy   Mario 3-bar FPR procured and installed. Shows 41.5...   Mar 13 2020, 07:52 PM
ChrisFoley   Asking for a friend. :miles: :shades2:   Mar 14 2020, 05:49 AM


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