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| dereknlee |
Apr 25 2020, 09:27 AM
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 73 Joined: 16-March 12 From: Shoreline, WA Member No.: 14,259 Region Association: Pacific Northwest
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I have a decision to make and could use some advice. My 1.7 engine was completely re-built into a 2 liter in 2012 by a local shop. At the time the plan was to run 40 IDFs so a Webcam 86 (00-152) cam was installed. My 914 hasn't driven since 2008 and has been an on-again/off-again project ever since, so the rebuilt long block has never run.
Well the 914 project is back on again and in the intervening years I've decided to stick with D-jet. I talked with Webcam, they said the 86 grind isn't too different but that they recommend a 73. And they generously offered to exchange for the cost of shipping (assuming the cam condition is as new). Swapping the cam is a bit intimidating as a project, but I have some engine rebuild experience and have done enough wrenching that I think I could muddle through. My questions are as follows: 1) If in my shoes would anyone not change the cam? My consensus from searching this forum is that the 73 is the grind to go with for injection and 86 is for carbs. But the conversations are usually had while someone is doing a rebuild anyway and looking for the optimal cam. 2) Is there a minimally invasive way to get to the cam, or should I just follow engine rebuild instructions and pull everything apart? Haven't found anything in my searches on this or other forums to suggest there is any option here. 3) Should I really just have a shop do this? The warranty on the rebuild has long expired. But the possibility for mistakes that could take down the otherwise good rebuild abound (or so I fear). Are there any steps in this process that require experience or special tools that someone who is book taught on this process is likely to mess up? Here's a picture, because walls of text are boring: (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/www.thesamba.com-14259-1587828462.1.jpg) Thanks! -Derek |
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| dereknlee |
Apr 25 2020, 09:27 PM
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 73 Joined: 16-March 12 From: Shoreline, WA Member No.: 14,259 Region Association: Pacific Northwest
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Lots of good ideas.
I think Webers look sexy as hell, so that coupled with my initial 'ick' reaction to the tangled web of FI hoses had me going down that road. But then I got a Vanagon and was forced to get a little more comfortable with FI - which has been rock solid in that vehicle. Also, maybe it is wishful thinking, but in the 12 years that this car has sat in my garage it seems like their value has gone up - so that's additional motivation to keep it stock (all be it with more displacement), maybe that will pay dividends in another 20 years. I do have the full 1.7 FI system, and it was working when the car was last parked. You've convinced me that I need to change out the cam, and now leaning heavily towards paying to have it done. Trying to get through it on my own might save a few bucks on the cam, but its a false economy given the time and risk of causing other problems. The engine was rebuilt by Northwest Connecting Rod. Looks like they have moved to Kent/Auburn since that time, if they are still in business? Any recommended engine businesses closer to Seattle? I'm not really concerned about warranty, already expired for the original rebuild. I love the color too. It was more of a John Deer green when I bought it, but i really lucked out that I could turn up the volume on the brightness while still keeping the color original. I will post pictures of progress. This week I removed all the suspension. Today I finished disassembly of the front suspension and spent a few hours prepping it for paint. So not very photogenic work, but feels good to be making progress again. Thanks again for all the advice, Derek |
dereknlee Cam Swap, Engine All Together Apr 25 2020, 09:27 AM
JOEPROPER Not sure about changing the cam but, if the engine... Apr 25 2020, 09:39 AM
thelogo If you have the cam for carbs in there
Then run... Apr 25 2020, 09:39 AM
PanelBilly I'd ask for Rich to help. If you're not su... Apr 25 2020, 09:44 AM
TheCabinetmaker It's not a v8. Cam change is a total breakdown... Apr 25 2020, 10:01 AM
porschetub Not a real big job as the motor is already recondi... Apr 25 2020, 02:56 PM
Cairo94507 Hi Derek,
Wow, that's a great looking 914 you... Apr 25 2020, 03:38 PM
914werke :agree: good lookin car.
I DONT agree with the ca... Apr 25 2020, 04:28 PM
jd74914 do You have a complete and known working D Jet sys... Apr 25 2020, 05:28 PM
PlaysWithCars
do You have a complete and known working D Jet sy... Apr 25 2020, 10:23 PM
porschetub
do You have a complete and known working D Jet s... Apr 25 2020, 10:55 PM
dereknlee
:agree:
Fuel injection :beer2: over carbs, but ... Apr 25 2020, 11:10 PM
JamesM
:agree:
Fuel injection :beer2: over carbs, but... Apr 26 2020, 12:56 AM
GregAmy
Lots of good ideas.
I think Webers look sexy a... Apr 26 2020, 07:02 AM
dereknlee
You never mentioned what d-jet setup you have, or... Apr 26 2020, 09:13 AM
JamesM
[quote name='JamesM' post='2808443' date='Apr 25 ... Apr 26 2020, 11:03 PM
dereknlee
What is your ultimate end goal? Starting from wh... Apr 27 2020, 06:00 PM
Bleyseng Me? I go the 2.0l engine with a Djet setup and buy... Apr 26 2020, 10:34 AM
bbrock I'm no expert on this but I know I've read... Apr 27 2020, 06:14 PM
Bleyseng
I'm no expert on this but I know I've rea... Apr 27 2020, 06:27 PM
bbrock
I'm no expert on this but I know I've re... Apr 27 2020, 07:27 PM
dereknlee
I've had enough on my hands bringing this rus... Apr 27 2020, 07:34 PM
bbrock
I've had enough on my hands bringing this ru... Apr 27 2020, 08:25 PM
914werke My searches led me to believe that Djet would wor... Apr 27 2020, 06:42 PM
Bleyseng We should meet up at 914Werke one day. :Qarl: Apr 27 2020, 07:12 PM
dereknlee
We should meet up at 914Werke one day. :Qarl:
... Apr 27 2020, 07:25 PM
Mark Henry Get a stock 2.0 intake system and run MS or SDS EF... Apr 28 2020, 05:51 AM![]() ![]() |
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