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| dereknlee |
Apr 25 2020, 09:27 AM
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 73 Joined: 16-March 12 From: Shoreline, WA Member No.: 14,259 Region Association: Pacific Northwest
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I have a decision to make and could use some advice. My 1.7 engine was completely re-built into a 2 liter in 2012 by a local shop. At the time the plan was to run 40 IDFs so a Webcam 86 (00-152) cam was installed. My 914 hasn't driven since 2008 and has been an on-again/off-again project ever since, so the rebuilt long block has never run.
Well the 914 project is back on again and in the intervening years I've decided to stick with D-jet. I talked with Webcam, they said the 86 grind isn't too different but that they recommend a 73. And they generously offered to exchange for the cost of shipping (assuming the cam condition is as new). Swapping the cam is a bit intimidating as a project, but I have some engine rebuild experience and have done enough wrenching that I think I could muddle through. My questions are as follows: 1) If in my shoes would anyone not change the cam? My consensus from searching this forum is that the 73 is the grind to go with for injection and 86 is for carbs. But the conversations are usually had while someone is doing a rebuild anyway and looking for the optimal cam. 2) Is there a minimally invasive way to get to the cam, or should I just follow engine rebuild instructions and pull everything apart? Haven't found anything in my searches on this or other forums to suggest there is any option here. 3) Should I really just have a shop do this? The warranty on the rebuild has long expired. But the possibility for mistakes that could take down the otherwise good rebuild abound (or so I fear). Are there any steps in this process that require experience or special tools that someone who is book taught on this process is likely to mess up? Here's a picture, because walls of text are boring: (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/www.thesamba.com-14259-1587828462.1.jpg) Thanks! -Derek |
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| bbrock |
Apr 27 2020, 06:14 PM
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914 Guru ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5,269 Joined: 17-February 17 From: Montana Member No.: 20,845 Region Association: Rocky Mountains
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I'm no expert on this but I know I've read several times that D-Jet is good up to a 2056 engine. I'm in a similar situation as you. Thirty years ago I got tired of being stranded by a worn out D-Jet system in my 73 2.0L. The engine was due for a rebuild anyway so I tore it down and rebuilt the bottom end bone stock except with Euro spec pistons and a carb cam to match a pair of Webers purchased at the same time. Life happened and 30 years later, I'm just now at the point of finishing what I started. If I started today, I would have refurbished the D-Jet but given I have the carbs and the cam is already installed, I'm going to run with them for awhile. Maybe I'll tear it down and swap cams at a later time but that is TBD.
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| Bleyseng |
Apr 27 2020, 06:27 PM
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Aircooled Baby! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 13,036 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Seattle, Washington (for now) Member No.: 24 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
I'm no expert on this but I know I've read several times that D-Jet is good up to a 2056 engine. I'm in a similar situation as you. Thirty years ago I got tired of being stranded by a worn out D-Jet system in my 73 2.0L. The engine was due for a rebuild anyway so I tore it down and rebuilt the bottom end bone stock except with Euro spec pistons and a carb cam to match a pair of Webers purchased at the same time. Life happened and 30 years later, I'm just now at the point of finishing what I started. If I started today, I would have refurbished the D-Jet but given I have the carbs and the cam is already installed, I'm going to run with them for awhile. Maybe I'll tear it down and swap cams at a later time but that is TBD. I have had my 2.0L car running Djet since I put it back on since 1998. It has failed once with a dead CHT in my driveway! Worn out parts hmm- you can buy new 123 dizzys now, injectors, rebuilt MPS's, etc... What the heck failed you all the time? There are still 2.0L Djet setup's out there for someone to install on their car to make it "original". I still have yet to drive a Megasquirt 2056 that runs as strong as mine. Do your homework as there are soo many possibilities.. |
dereknlee Cam Swap, Engine All Together Apr 25 2020, 09:27 AM
JOEPROPER Not sure about changing the cam but, if the engine... Apr 25 2020, 09:39 AM
thelogo If you have the cam for carbs in there
Then run... Apr 25 2020, 09:39 AM
PanelBilly I'd ask for Rich to help. If you're not su... Apr 25 2020, 09:44 AM
TheCabinetmaker It's not a v8. Cam change is a total breakdown... Apr 25 2020, 10:01 AM
porschetub Not a real big job as the motor is already recondi... Apr 25 2020, 02:56 PM
Cairo94507 Hi Derek,
Wow, that's a great looking 914 you... Apr 25 2020, 03:38 PM
914werke :agree: good lookin car.
I DONT agree with the ca... Apr 25 2020, 04:28 PM
jd74914 do You have a complete and known working D Jet sys... Apr 25 2020, 05:28 PM
dereknlee Lots of good ideas.
I think Webers look sexy as... Apr 25 2020, 09:27 PM
PlaysWithCars
do You have a complete and known working D Jet sy... Apr 25 2020, 10:23 PM
porschetub
do You have a complete and known working D Jet s... Apr 25 2020, 10:55 PM
dereknlee
:agree:
Fuel injection :beer2: over carbs, but ... Apr 25 2020, 11:10 PM
JamesM
:agree:
Fuel injection :beer2: over carbs, but... Apr 26 2020, 12:56 AM
GregAmy
Lots of good ideas.
I think Webers look sexy a... Apr 26 2020, 07:02 AM
dereknlee
You never mentioned what d-jet setup you have, or... Apr 26 2020, 09:13 AM
JamesM
[quote name='JamesM' post='2808443' date='Apr 25 ... Apr 26 2020, 11:03 PM
dereknlee
What is your ultimate end goal? Starting from wh... Apr 27 2020, 06:00 PM
Bleyseng Me? I go the 2.0l engine with a Djet setup and buy... Apr 26 2020, 10:34 AM
bbrock
I'm no expert on this but I know I've re... Apr 27 2020, 07:27 PM
dereknlee
I've had enough on my hands bringing this rus... Apr 27 2020, 07:34 PM
bbrock
I've had enough on my hands bringing this ru... Apr 27 2020, 08:25 PM
914werke My searches led me to believe that Djet would wor... Apr 27 2020, 06:42 PM
Bleyseng We should meet up at 914Werke one day. :Qarl: Apr 27 2020, 07:12 PM
dereknlee
We should meet up at 914Werke one day. :Qarl:
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Mark Henry Get a stock 2.0 intake system and run MS or SDS EF... Apr 28 2020, 05:51 AM![]() ![]() |
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