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> For flat sixes: Webers v MFI v EFI, Ecologically speaking…
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post Jun 5 2020, 03:34 PM
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Currently have a 2.2E/S with Webers. It runs well and makes good power, having been tuned on the dyno and further dialed in since then, but I have discovered I'm just not a carburetor person. Fuel economy isn't good enough for the size of engine/car, and the emissions bother me—both in terms of the smells in my garage and while driving the car. And yes, we've been totally spoiled by low emissions cars.

What I'm curious about, for anyone who has lived with carbs and MFI: Is MFI noticeably cleaner and/or more efficient than carbs?

Or is EFI the way to go? I'm in no hurry on this, but curious for the experiences of others. Yes, Motronic, but I actually like the 2.2 engine.

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post Jun 5 2020, 06:26 PM
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Interesting...I think most of 6 drivers don't really worry about efficiency and emissions, especially on 30 plus year engines:)

A small displacement engine on carbs tuned properly can be quite fuel efficient and not smell of fuel/etc. of course never as close as EFI and you have to adapt your driving style.

MFI is kinda the precursor to fuel injection and very rudimentary. Great power band but you drive it almost on and off throttle. Due to fuel injectors at 220psi you get better atomoization and fuel burn for efficiency and of course smell over Carbs but still way short of EFI.

I've done Webers- Simple, quick technology, pain to initially tune and LOTS of compromises.

I've done many MFI- T/E/S, even a real 2.7RS, and my own built 3.0L. Complicated to understand at first and to tune properly. But man that throttle response and sound in addicting.

That being said, unless you have an affinity or like to play with these technologies EFI is the way to go for the best of both worlds. Check out X-Faktory (Al Kosmol on Pelican) he's created some really cool EFI independent throttle body kits for small displacement Porsche (2.0L and up). I haven't seen any with small displacement try this yet but lots are raving about EFI on their old motors.

For me, regardless of the induction, I'm as often as safely possible into 6K/rpm so emissions and efficiency are until the next fill up (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif)

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Marlon
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horizontally-opposed   For flat sixes: Webers v MFI v EFI   Jun 5 2020, 03:34 PM
sixnotfour   efi is the old school Boss..not so correct for the...   Jun 5 2020, 03:57 PM
mepstein   A properly restored and tuned MFI setup will be cl...   Jun 5 2020, 04:33 PM
worn   Currently have a 2.2E/S with Webers. It runs well...   Jun 5 2020, 04:34 PM
SirAndy   Cross country I got a little better than 25 mpg wi...   Jun 5 2020, 06:29 PM
burton73   I can tell you one thing, MFI on an E or S when tu...   Jun 5 2020, 04:53 PM
colingreene   EFI is the only way to go if you dont mind spendin...   Jun 5 2020, 05:10 PM
raynekat   MFI is good for power, but not fuel economy or low...   Jun 5 2020, 05:16 PM
morgan_harwell   MFI will not get better MPG or Emissions than woul...   Jun 5 2020, 05:32 PM
horizontally-opposed   Appreciate the replies so far. Have driven MFI—I...   Jun 5 2020, 06:19 PM
Sway Bar   Interesting...I think most of 6 drivers don't ...   Jun 5 2020, 06:26 PM
roblav1   My 2.2E targa MFI got 17 mpg highway back in 1982....   Jun 5 2020, 09:15 PM
horizontally-opposed   My 2.2E targa MFI got 17 mpg highway back in 1982...   Jun 6 2020, 12:35 AM
Charles Freeborn   https://rasantproducts.com   Jun 5 2020, 09:22 PM
gereed75   I have been collecting parts for a few years now t...   Jun 5 2020, 09:51 PM
porschetub   I have been collecting parts for a few years now ...   Jun 6 2020, 12:07 AM
Chris914n6   Cross country I got a little better than 25 mpg w...   Jun 5 2020, 10:40 PM
stevesc_us   Pete, You’ve seen my car at the EASY get togeth...   Jun 5 2020, 11:32 PM
gereed75   My carbed 2.4 in S trim runs good, pulls smoothly ...   Jun 6 2020, 05:53 AM
roblav1   A problem with carbs and MFI is that a lot of unat...   Jun 6 2020, 06:52 AM
horizontally-opposed   A problem with carbs and MFI is that a lot of una...   Jun 6 2020, 11:22 AM
jd74914   [quote name='roblav1' post='2822540' date='Jun 6 ...   Jun 6 2020, 01:58 PM
mb911   I plan to do 1 of 2 things on my car.. Use my webe...   Jun 6 2020, 06:52 AM
Mark Henry   I plan to do 1 of 2 things on my car.. Use my web...   Jun 7 2020, 06:34 AM
sixnotfour   https://www.x-faktory.com/store/p3/EFI_Kit_RHD-EFI...   Jun 6 2020, 01:36 PM
roblav1   I paid $300 for 8 low mileage Suzuki ITBs, wi...   Jun 6 2020, 03:24 PM
sixnotfour   http://forums.pelicanparts.com/search.php?do=proce...   Jun 6 2020, 03:42 PM
mepstein   I would give Al a call about his x-faktory kit and...   Jun 6 2020, 03:46 PM
sixnotfour   Als a great guy , would make a great article too. ...   Jun 6 2020, 04:14 PM
roblav1   I've got the same cams as Mark in my Carrera 3...   Jun 7 2020, 07:22 AM
Mark Henry   I've got the same cams as Mark in my Carrera ...   Jun 7 2020, 08:36 AM
roblav1   I've got the same cams as Mark in my Carrera...   Jun 7 2020, 09:19 AM
horizontally-opposed   I can see where PMO carbs are attractive to someon...   Jun 7 2020, 10:07 AM
echocanyons   I have essentially the same setup as Steve in my 9...   Jun 7 2020, 12:17 PM
horizontally-opposed   I have essentially the same setup as Steve in my ...   Jun 7 2020, 12:53 PM
Chris914n6   MS3pro is a completely different system than the M...   Jun 7 2020, 12:48 PM


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