OT: Be careful which "ricers" you sneer at, There might be more to it. Options

[Brett W]

When someone convinced the poor little misguided youth that rice was nice, that was the down hill slide. This is by no means a one time cycle. How many shackled up muscle cars did you see through out the 70s and 80s.. What about the van craze. Ricers are just the new generation of rednecks.


Most of the people on honda-tech are idiots, but there are some people and companies that really know what they are doing. Here are some of the more common combinations. Can't put it to the ground but damn from a roll they are lethel. I didn't even look for the Supra dyno charts, their always in the 800-1000hp range.

http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1069197 678whp and 402ft/lbs
http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=864155&page=1 417whp and 309ft/lbs
http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1010357 404.5 hp and 295.5ft-lbs & 393whp and 292ft/lbs
http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1051135 514whp and 309 ft/lbs
http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1033030 505WHP and 328 ft/lbs
http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=941983 447whp and 319 ft/lbs
http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=980524 542 hp and 615 ft lb's Mitsubishi EVO
http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=943522 376whp and 252ft/lbs
http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=920022 462whp and 328 ftlbs He cheated.
http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=891131&page=3 430whp and 327ft/lbs All from a SOHC D series motor.
http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=861581 Multiple cars at a dyno day.
http://www.theoldone.com/forum/topic.asp?T...SearchTerms=H22 not cheap but NA prelude engine
http://speedtalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t...ight=turbo+four EAgle Talon

Whether you like rice or not there are some very fast cars and some major development going on on that side of the fence. There are many people just in town that look like rice and then there are the ones that look stock with a little lowering and some wheels that are very fast. Would flat walk away from most of germnay's best offerings in the straights some coudl do it in the corners, not many. Too bad road racing is not a major interest for these kids. Perhaps we could see a revival of the old days.

[soloracer]

When someone convinced the poor little misguided youth that rice was nice, that was the down hill slide. This is by no means a one time cycle. How many shackled up muscle cars did you see through out the 70s and 80s.. What about the van craze. Ricers are just the new generation of rednecks.

Only stupider and more arrogant. The part that bugs me most about the majority of these backwards hat wearing, underwear sticking out of their pants guys is the bullshit "attitude" that seems to come with them. Aside from being asked "Yo, what crew are you with?" It seems to me the majority of ricers that I have talked to will only talk to brag up a storm about their POS and make tons of unsubstantiated claims of what their cars are capable of. "My ride is sick man....it makes 500 hp at 2000 psi of boost and when the V-tec kicks in all hell breaks loose." The numbers given are not backed up. Sort of like me saying that I have 13 inch pecker but don't bring out the ruler. Then when you pop the hood on this ricer all you see is an intake and exhaust set up. I had one guy ask how much boost I was running in my 951 and when I said 15 psi he goes "Is that all? I'm getting 40 psi out of my turbo." Try to explain the principals of boost and that higher pressures do not equal more power and all you get is the "whatever" stare. What seems to be of utmost importance to these guys is the amount of MONEY that you spent on your car. They tell everyone "I spent $30,000 on this" like it's a badge of honor whereas the majority of us would be embarrassed to make such an admission. One guy here spent $50,000, counting numerous engine rebuilds, and all he got was a car that looks like turd with plastic fins and vents stuck on it that on a good day will run a low 13 second quarter. With all the body moldings and kits there is no way any other kind of track work would be considered. And to think that he could have bought an NSX, Viper, Supra TT or early 911 turbo for that kind of dough. The worst part is he is proud of what he SPENT and other ricers are in awe of his financial resources.


Whether you like rice or not there are some very fast cars and some major development going on on that side of the fence. There are many people just in town that look like rice and then there are the ones that look stock with a little lowering and some wheels that are very fast. Would flat walk away from most of germnay's best offerings in the straights some coudl do it in the corners, not many.

When you are talking about germany's best offerings do you mean in stock form? Or all cars built in germany period? I'm thinking that there are probably more than one porsche that would give these guys fits.

Too bad road racing is not a major interest for these kids. Perhaps we could see a revival of the old days.

There is an active segment of import racers that compete in road racing in both an amateur and professional level. Names like Kleinubbing (sp) and Cunningham come to mind for pros. The amateurs and pros that do compete I have the utmost respect for. They are not ricers because for them it's not all about IMAGE.