Home  |  Forums  |  914 Info  |  Blogs
 
914World.com - The fastest growing online 914 community!
 
Porsche, and the Porsche crest are registered trademarks of Dr. Ing. h.c. F. Porsche AG. This site is not affiliated with Porsche in any way.
Its only purpose is to provide an online forum for car enthusiasts. All other trademarks are property of their respective owners.
 

Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register )

> A arm and ball joint
Stltri
post Jul 16 2020, 12:28 PM
Post #1


Member
**

Group: Members
Posts: 70
Joined: 13-April 15
From: SoCal
Member No.: 18,622
Region Association: None



Plan to replace a arm bushings. Started removing the front driver a arm but my ball joint spindle won’t budge from the carrier. Tried tuning fork, map torch, pbblaster, and two opposing BFH. It’s rusted in there. Anybody got alternative strategies? Perhaps I need a special tool although I don’t think the tie rod remover will work here?

Attached Image
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
 
Reply to this topicStart new topic
Replies
mepstein
post Jul 16 2020, 12:52 PM
Post #2


914-6 GT in waiting
***************

Group: Members
Posts: 20,587
Joined: 19-September 09
From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE
Member No.: 10,825
Region Association: MidAtlantic Region



I’ve removed at least a dozen pairs from very rusty (east coast) struts. If you still have the rubber cover on your ball joint, you aren’t getting it hot enough. 8-10 minutes with MAP gas, spray with penetrating oil as it cools, hit the bottom of the ball joint with a big hammer to shock it and rinse and repeat.

I always remove the strut from the a arm with the ball joint and then work on the ball joint/strut removal off the car. If you have trouble getting the ball joint nut off the bottom of the a arm, the same removal technique as above and use an impact gun with a good ball joint tool.
User is online!Profile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
Stltri
post Jul 16 2020, 06:35 PM
Post #3


Member
**

Group: Members
Posts: 70
Joined: 13-April 15
From: SoCal
Member No.: 18,622
Region Association: None



QUOTE(mepstein @ Jul 16 2020, 11:52 AM) *

I’ve removed at least a dozen pairs from very rusty (east coast) struts. If you still have the rubber cover on your ball joint, you aren’t getting it hot enough. 8-10 minutes with MAP gas, spray with penetrating oil as it cools, hit the bottom of the ball joint with a big hammer to shock it and rinse and repeat.

I always remove the strut from the a arm with the ball joint and then work on the ball joint/strut removal off the car. If you have trouble getting the ball joint nut off the bottom of the a arm, the same removal technique as above and use an impact gun with a good ball joint tool.


Thanks for the pointers! So I was able to pry it loose after a lot of heat, prying, and pbblaster. But just when I thought I was free I got stuck pulling it completely out so I thought by loosening the rest of the bolts and in turn drop the arm out I can wiggle spindle out. Nope. Still stuck. Do I just hammer it out or use more heat and oil?Attached Image
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
Jack Standz
post Jul 17 2020, 09:22 AM
Post #4


Senior Member
***

Group: Members
Posts: 743
Joined: 15-November 19
From: Happy Place (& surrounding area)
Member No.: 23,644
Region Association: None



QUOTE(Stltri @ Jul 17 2020, 07:35 AM) *

QUOTE(mepstein @ Jul 16 2020, 11:52 AM) *

I’ve removed at least a dozen pairs from very rusty (east coast) struts. If you still have the rubber cover on your ball joint, you aren’t getting it hot enough. 8-10 minutes with MAP gas, spray with penetrating oil as it cools, hit the bottom of the ball joint with a big hammer to shock it and rinse and repeat.

I always remove the strut from the a arm with the ball joint and then work on the ball joint/strut removal off the car. If you have trouble getting the ball joint nut off the bottom of the a arm, the same removal technique as above and use an impact gun with a good ball joint tool.


Thanks for the pointers! So I was able to pry it loose after a lot of heat, prying, and pbblaster. But just when I thought I was free I got stuck pulling it completely out so I thought by loosening the rest of the bolts and in turn drop the arm out I can wiggle spindle out. Nope. Still stuck. Do I just hammer it out or use more heat and oil?Attached Image


Yes, heat, PB Blaster & all that. Be very careful with hitting on the a-arm if you decide to go that route even with a wood block to cushion the hits.

You can use an engine hoist by putting heavy washer/nut on top of strut (insert being replaced anyway), heavy chain, then wood block between a-arm and underside of hoist.

To remove the ball joint, carefully use cutoff wheel to cut the nut (can cut from center of underside of ball joint to the outside, you don't need to cut all the way through), then hit with chisel in the slot to unscrew it. Impact hammer/chisel works too sometimes.

Sorry, no photos of using this technique on a 911 front end that just would not let go after all these years (mid 70s? With original struts and ball joints). She really fought us.

User is online!Profile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post

Posts in this topic
Stltri   A arm and ball joint   Jul 16 2020, 12:28 PM
mepstein   I’ve removed at least a dozen pairs from very ru...   Jul 16 2020, 12:52 PM
Stltri   I’ve removed at least a dozen pairs from very r...   Jul 16 2020, 06:35 PM
Jack Standz   [quote name='mepstein' post='2834376' date='Jul 1...   Jul 17 2020, 09:22 AM
mepstein   More heat on the strut and then using a piece of m...   Jul 16 2020, 06:59 PM
Stltri   More heat on the strut and then using a piece of ...   Jul 16 2020, 07:21 PM
mepstein   The hole for the ball joint just needs to be clean...   Jul 16 2020, 07:41 PM
cuddy_k   :agree: When you're ready...there's an A-...   Jul 16 2020, 10:15 PM
Stltri   :agree: When you're ready...there's an A...   Jul 16 2020, 11:04 PM
Stltri   I finally got ball joints free. Instead of hammeri...   Jul 17 2020, 07:47 PM
mepstein   OEM foam seal. You can buy from Porsche for ~...   Jul 17 2020, 08:40 PM
jonferns   Felt washer/seal. Mine was disintegrated as well, ...   Jul 17 2020, 08:40 PM
Stltri   Interesting. Anybody have a pic or part number? Do...   Jul 17 2020, 10:06 PM
mepstein   Interesting. Anybody have a pic or part number? D...   Jul 18 2020, 05:13 AM
jonferns   Interesting. Anybody have a pic or part number? D...   Jul 18 2020, 09:10 AM
914e   Interesting. Anybody have a pic or part number? ...   Jul 18 2020, 11:05 AM
mepstein   [quote name='jonferns' post='2834882' date='Jul 1...   Jul 18 2020, 11:15 AM
Stltri   Just an update and a few question.. got the arm bu...   Jul 22 2020, 08:21 AM
mepstein   Reuse the ball joint nut and washer if they are in...   Jul 22 2020, 09:21 AM
Stltri   Reuse the ball joint nut and washer if they are i...   Jul 22 2020, 12:46 PM
mepstein   Reuse the ball joint nut and washer if they are ...   Jul 22 2020, 01:00 PM


Reply to this topicStart new topic
1 User(s) are reading this topic (1 Guests and 0 Anonymous Users)
0 Members:

 



- Lo-Fi Version Time is now: 2nd April 2026 - 01:02 PM
...