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| ctc911ctc |
Aug 1 2020, 02:08 PM
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While I wait for the dog teeth to be delivered, I thought I would change the seals (front and rear) I built a tool for my wheel puller - have turned it to about 80 ft/lbs, kinda worried to crank it another turn,,,,,, I am using penetrating oil on the shaft,,,,,,,,,what next? Heat? Incantations? Ideas? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) |
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| Superhawk996 |
Aug 2 2020, 10:18 AM
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Yowza -- can see deformation of the hub from the hammering. Using soft face hammer?
Bottom line 60 seconds of heat is nowhere near enough. You want that part to get up to 250-350 degrees. Hot! So hot that you wouldn't want to pick it up immediately even with thin leather gloves. Sort of hard to explain. You're not shooting for red hot, that is way too much. If you were to put a drop of penetrating oil on it while it's hot, it should be hot enough to smoke that oil. As stated above make sure the puller isn't interfering. Doesn't look like it to me unless the solid material at the base of the thread is one of those tapered points - I'm assuming that is the crank nose that I see. I have a small plate of thick hardened washers that I put on the crank nose so the puller isn't bearing directly on the counterbore of the crank and/or at risk of messing up threads in the crank nose. That elimantes some of the apprehension about putting more torque on the puller for me. Bolt in hole could work too but beware then all tension is on the bolt threads. I've seen it work and I've even done it this way a few times myself when I have too, but, I don't really like to put that load on threads like that. That one seems to be a real bear -- keep fighting the good fight. |
| ctc911ctc |
Aug 2 2020, 11:16 AM
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,275 Joined: 9-June 18 From: boston Member No.: 22,206 Region Association: North East States
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OK, more heat - less hammer!
BTW, the marks that are in the picture seem to be from when the part was made - there are a few flat spots on the edge of the yoke in various places. Thank you SH! Yowza -- can see deformation of the hub from the hammering. Using soft face hammer? Bottom line 60 seconds of heat is nowhere near enough. You want that part to get up to 250-350 degrees. Hot! So hot that you wouldn't want to pick it up immediately even with thin leather gloves. Sort of hard to explain. You're not shooting for red hot, that is way too much. If you were to put a drop of penetrating oil on it while it's hot, it should be hot enough to smoke that oil. As stated above make sure the puller isn't interfering. Doesn't look like it to me unless the solid material at the base of the thread is one of those tapered points - I'm assuming that is the crank nose that I see. I have a small plate of thick hardened washers that I put on the crank nose so the puller isn't bearing directly on the counterbore of the crank and/or at risk of messing up threads in the crank nose. That elimantes some of the apprehension about putting more torque on the puller for me. Bolt in hole could work too but beware then all tension is on the bolt threads. I've seen it work and I've even done it this way a few times myself when I have too, but, I don't really like to put that load on threads like that. That one seems to be a real bear -- keep fighting the good fight. |
ctc911ctc How much torque is too much? Aug 1 2020, 02:08 PM
Superhawk996 Heat.
A rap on the side of the hub while it's... Aug 1 2020, 02:18 PM
ctc911ctc Super Hawk to the rescue!
Heat and hammer... Aug 1 2020, 02:23 PM
ctc911ctc Lots of heat and hammer, no joy yet,,,, over night... Aug 1 2020, 03:21 PM
pilothyer If you heat it up with a MAPP torch with it under ... Aug 1 2020, 03:32 PM
ctc911ctc Ahhhhh
I only have a propane torch,,,,,, will kee... Aug 1 2020, 03:46 PM
mepstein
Ahhhhh
I only have a propane torch,,,,,, will ke... Aug 1 2020, 04:19 PM
Superhawk996
Ahhhhh
I only have a propane torch,,,,,, will ke... Aug 1 2020, 04:41 PM
porschetub No ,penetrating oil will have no effect on a taper... Aug 1 2020, 04:58 PM
porschetub X2 reply sorry. Aug 1 2020, 05:02 PM
Jake Raby These can be tough. They are also getting rare to ... Aug 1 2020, 06:22 PM
ctc911ctc Is this the right setup for high and fast heat?
h... Aug 1 2020, 06:53 PM

73-914
Is this the right setup for high and fast heat?
... Aug 1 2020, 07:15 PM
ctc911ctc Yikes, I was thinking that I was pulling too hard ... Aug 1 2020, 06:54 PM
cuddy_k :agree: with the mapp torch. Two things...
1) whe... Aug 1 2020, 07:13 PM
76-914 You don't need to buy a torch, just a bottle o... Aug 1 2020, 07:16 PM
bretth I have not done this yet myself, but when hitting ... Aug 2 2020, 12:15 AM
Frankvw I also had the same issue on my type4 2.0L bus eng... Aug 2 2020, 07:32 AM
ctc911ctc Buying MAPP gas now, I do not need O2 as in the pi... Aug 2 2020, 07:41 AM
Superhawk996
Buying MAPP gas now, I do not need O2 as in the p... Aug 2 2020, 08:42 AM
ctc911ctc Hit it with the mapp torch for 60 sec, hammered ar... Aug 2 2020, 09:00 AM
sixnotfour Is the puller going through the bore of the flange... Aug 2 2020, 09:35 AM
ctc911ctc I have 6 pullers of various size, this puller has ... Aug 2 2020, 11:12 AM
sixnotfour
I have 6 pullers of various size, this puller has... Aug 2 2020, 11:18 AM
sixnotfour https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZU_-BLDNAU
DZU_-... Aug 2 2020, 10:43 AM
cuddy_k At least 5 minutes I would say, but @superhawk996... Aug 2 2020, 10:56 AM
cuddy_k double post Aug 2 2020, 10:56 AM
Superhawk996 :D
Like the video and special tool. The princip... Aug 2 2020, 10:57 AM
sixnotfour I shouldn't even respond ..but..my motto.. typ... Aug 2 2020, 11:02 AM
Superhawk996
I shouldn't even respond ..but..my motto.. ty... Aug 2 2020, 11:11 AM
bobboinski I have been successful doing this by getting the p... Aug 2 2020, 11:31 AM
bobboinski I just looked back at your puller. I use a steerin... Aug 2 2020, 11:40 AM
ctc911ctc :shoot2kill: HEAT, MORE HEAT :shoot2kill:
W... Aug 2 2020, 03:38 PM
porschetub
:shoot2kill: HEAT, MORE HEAT :shoot2kill:
... Aug 2 2020, 05:38 PM
Superhawk996
Well it came off,
:Qarl: :cheer: Aug 3 2020, 06:29 AM
bobboinski :beer2: No opinion on the plugs, I cleaned mine u... Aug 2 2020, 05:02 PM![]() ![]() |
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