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> Anyone running 9:1 or higher on the street?
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post Dec 19 2004, 02:55 PM
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I'm still hashing over compression ratios. I've been reading online that these motors don't or won't run compressions as high as 9:1 without taking extra steps. Like aluminum cylinders or electronic fuel injection. Mainly just because of the heat involved.

Has anyone "got away" with running higher compressions like this on stock cylinders?

*** IF anyone has any feedback on what fuel grade they are running at their higher compression and if they are getting any knocks ect... I would also greatly appreciate that information too.

Thanks everyone!

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CO gets better, but NOx goes up, way up, with flame front temp


Yes, but only HC and CO were being measured when the engine was being designed. NOx measurement didn't come into play until after 1980. The first catalytic convertors (so-called oxidizing or two-way convertors) only handled HC and CO emissions, too. The cats on the '75 and '76 914s, for example, were oxidizers. The later three-way or oxidizing/reduction catalysts handled HC, CO, and NOx.

The ironic thing is you can take an engine that, bare, spews out HC numbers of 300ppm, and similarly terrible CO and NOx numbers, just add a $75 three-way cat to the exhaust pipe, and your emission numbers will fall to 10% or less of the pre-cat numbers. However, if you really do nothing else, the cat will die in 10-20K miles and the emission numbers will climb back up again. The O2 sensor and the related electronics and mixture control are there primarily to control O2 levels to the point where the cat will continue to live for 50K miles or so.
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-JR-   Anyone running 9:1 or higher on the street?   Dec 19 2004, 02:55 PM
spare time toys   I have like 19 to 1 buts its in a TDI :D   Dec 19 2004, 03:20 PM
skline   I am running about 11 to 1 in mine. Very responsiv...   Dec 19 2004, 03:23 PM
cha914   Mine is 8.8 to 1 and I run premium (93 around here...   Dec 19 2004, 03:55 PM
SirAndy   9:1 on a 2056 with no special cyl. or heads ... 9...   Dec 19 2004, 03:58 PM
Aaron Cox   euro pistons get me what? 9 ish to 1? i run 89.......   Dec 19 2004, 04:01 PM
Bleyseng   Euro's are 8to1 Aaron..... I am running 8.2to...   Dec 19 2004, 05:30 PM
Brett W   AAAAHHHH the urban legend is back. Compression do...   Dec 19 2004, 11:02 PM
Brando   Also a friend of mine in the petro-chemicals indus...   Dec 19 2004, 11:16 PM
Brett W   Higher octane does indeed burn slower. More timin...   Dec 20 2004, 12:04 AM
Jake Raby   In my testing and experience I have seen that inad...   Dec 20 2004, 11:08 AM
Bleyseng   but isn't that what VW/Porsche wanted to do in...   Dec 20 2004, 11:27 AM
Jake Raby   While melting the heads and dropping seats.... Th...   Dec 20 2004, 12:37 PM
Red-Beard   CO gets better, but NOx goes up, way up, with flam...   Dec 20 2004, 12:47 PM
lapuwali     Dec 20 2004, 02:01 PMJake Raby   I have had 10:1 2270s pass emission tests in CA an...   Dec 20 2004, 02:04 PM
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