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> What kind of gas are you using?, modern 91/93 with ethanol or non-ethanol with octane booster
boxster914
post Oct 9 2020, 01:16 PM
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I've just been given two conflicting suggestions:

Run non-ethanol 89 octane gas and use a lead substitute (instead o' lead)

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just use modern 91/93 octane gas that contains ethanol.

I had been using non-ethanol gas in my 72 Beetle and then switched to modern 91/93 gas with ethanol and it seemed to develop a hesitation on acceleration.

I just got a 71 914 and am interested to know what you all are using so I can decide which gas to use in it.
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post Oct 10 2020, 06:25 AM
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Comes down to what's available. Some states don't allow non-ethanol fuels to be put in cars. others have no issue with it.

These cars were built to run on leaded regular (which of course did not have ethanol). Good luck finding that (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Most cars get buy with any 87-93 octane fuel, ethanol or not. If you've advanced your timing trying to squeek out the last few hp, running 91 or higher could help with some predetonation.

If you are using an ethanol fuel in a car that sits awhile, run some kind of Stabil/Heet/Water evaporator to help keep lines and injectors/carbs cleaner.. not spotless, but cleaner.

Feel free to add a lead additive if you are worried about valvetrain wear.

Asking what fuel to use is like asking what oil to use. Everyone will tell you something to conflict with the last opinion!
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post Oct 10 2020, 09:30 AM
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QUOTE(Racer @ Oct 10 2020, 06:25 AM) *

Comes down to what's available. Some states don't allow non-ethanol fuels to be put in cars. others have no issue with it.

These cars were built to run on leaded regular (which of course did not have ethanol). Good luck finding that (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Most cars get buy with any 87-93 octane fuel, ethanol or not. If you've advanced your timing trying to squeek out the last few hp, running 91 or higher could help with some predetonation.

If you are using an ethanol fuel in a car that sits awhile, run some kind of Stabil/Heet/Water evaporator to help keep lines and injectors/carbs cleaner.. not spotless, but cleaner.

Feel free to add a lead additive if you are worried about valvetrain wear.

Asking what fuel to use is like asking what oil to use. Everyone will tell you something to conflict with the last opinion!


(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) except I'm not sure what would be gained with a lead additive since our cars have hardened valve seats. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)

There is no advantage to running higher octane than needed unless you are trying to lose weight in your wallet. All stock 914 engines should run fine on regular octane unless you've tweaked them from stock specs.

I haven't driven my 914 since the days of leaded but hopefully she'll be mobile by this spring. I'll fill with ethanol free gas most of the time but won't hesitate to fill with ethanol blend on long trips when I know the tank will be used before storing the car for any length of time. If I do have to park the car for any length of time with ethanol blend in the tank, I'll use a stabilizer additive.
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boxster914   What kind of gas are you using?   Oct 9 2020, 01:16 PM
ndfrigi   check this site. https://marcnelsonoil.com/the-pr...   Oct 9 2020, 01:25 PM
bbrock   check this site. https://marcnelsonoil.com/the-p...   Oct 10 2020, 09:59 AM
BPic   If you want Ethanol free gas check out this site. ...   Oct 9 2020, 02:10 PM
jfort   Had a long talk with Richard Parr, the maker of PM...   Oct 9 2020, 03:21 PM
bretth   My limited understanding is that higher octane fue...   Oct 9 2020, 04:09 PM
gfg3   I've been using 87 octane ethanol free in my ...   Oct 9 2020, 04:22 PM
Sprout   I've been using 87 octane ethanol free in my ...   Oct 9 2020, 04:45 PM
73-914   only Stewart's 91 ethanol-free   Oct 9 2020, 04:40 PM
flat4guy   Chevron Supreme   Oct 9 2020, 08:21 PM
mark04usa   Chevron Supreme :agree: I've used same for...   Oct 9 2020, 10:15 PM
VegasRacer   Chevron Supreme :agree: I've used same fo...   Oct 9 2020, 10:18 PM
Racer   Comes down to what's available. Some states do...   Oct 10 2020, 06:25 AM
bbrock   Comes down to what's available. Some states d...   Oct 10 2020, 09:30 AM
Gint   Oh boy. I've seen this subject come up over a...   Oct 10 2020, 09:48 AM
Mark Henry   These cars were built to run on leaded regular (...   Oct 11 2020, 10:02 AM
Johny Blackstain   Some of this is folklore. All VW and porsche head...   Oct 11 2020, 10:20 AM
bbrock   Some of this is folklore. All VW and porsche hea...   Oct 11 2020, 10:42 AM
Johny Blackstain   [quote name='Johny Blackstain' post='2858131' dat...   Oct 11 2020, 10:47 AM
bbrock   [quote name='Johny Blackstain' post='2858131' da...   Oct 11 2020, 06:09 PM
oakdalecurtis   One other thought not mentioned. The lower the oct...   Oct 10 2020, 09:40 AM
horizontally-opposed   My mechanics know their stuff, and both recommend ...   Oct 10 2020, 10:20 AM
BENBRO02   I use regular (87) from any gas station with ethan...   Oct 10 2020, 11:32 AM
Olympic 914   2056 with 8.6 comp I usually run the mid-grade, 89...   Oct 10 2020, 01:34 PM
DRPHIL914   i usually run the NO ethanol 87or89 on my stock 2....   Oct 11 2020, 08:23 AM
Johny Blackstain   For what it's worth, I've access to 87 eth...   Oct 11 2020, 08:54 AM


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