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> Brake bleeding, Nothing but air from rear brakes
Medtner3
post Oct 4 2020, 07:49 AM
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Just rebuilt my rear calipers with seals from PMB Performance. Using a vacuum brake bleeder I started with the right rear caliper lower bleeder screw ( I have two screws) and initially pulled about an inch of brake fluid with lots of bubbles and then zip. I get zero brake fluid now.

What could cause this? I have no signs of any leaks and the brakes were not bad before I rebuilt the calipers. I read somewhere that I might need to bleed the proportioning valve or even pump into the caliper some brake fluid through the top bleeder ?

I ordered a Motive pressure bleeder which arrives in a few days


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post Oct 11 2020, 06:36 AM
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Kind of have the same issue.. The entire brake system is new and I still can't get a good pedal.. Hope I didn't damage the new MC.
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post Oct 11 2020, 07:08 AM
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QUOTE(mb911 @ Oct 11 2020, 08:36 AM) *

Kind of have the same issue.. The entire brake system is new and I still can't get a good pedal.. Hope I didn't damage the new MC.

How would you have damaged the MC? It's unlikely, unless you pushed the pedal to the limit while bleeding. Easy to avoid by putting a wood block behind the pedal.

When the system is new, it definitely takes a bit of work and several round-trip bleeds to get the pedal firm. I also found it helped when I took a syringe and shot brake fluid up through the lower bleed screws (and out the tops). Speed bleeders help a lot, as you can use them alone, or in conjunction with a pressure bleeder like the motive. Took me nearly 2 liters of fluid to get the pedal firm.

Also, if you've got new pads and rotors, they need to be bedded in...and that will affect your braking power. See the procedure on the PMB site. Eric also has a great writeup on gravity bleeding... https://www.pmbperformance.com/914tech.html

Be safe and enjoy!
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Medtner3   Brake bleeding   Oct 4 2020, 07:49 AM
mlindner   Chances are the brake fluid drained out of the mas...   Oct 4 2020, 08:06 AM
Medtner3   Chances are the brake fluid drained out of the ma...   Oct 4 2020, 08:25 AM
mlindner   Yes I would try the fronts first...I know that is ...   Oct 4 2020, 08:36 AM
Medtner3   Yes I would try the fronts first...I know that is...   Oct 4 2020, 08:42 AM
davep   On a caliper with two bleed nipples, the top is th...   Oct 4 2020, 08:55 AM
Medtner3   On a caliper with two bleed nipples, the top is t...   Oct 4 2020, 11:51 AM
iankarr   On a caliper with two bleed nipples, the top is ...   Oct 4 2020, 12:08 PM
Medtner3   [quote name='Medtner3' post='2856582' date='Oct 4...   Oct 4 2020, 01:42 PM
Medtner3   [quote name='Medtner3' post='2856582' date='Oct 4...   Oct 6 2020, 04:28 PM
Olympic 914   It only pressurizes to 5-6 psi I wonder if tha...   Oct 6 2020, 06:42 PM
Medtner3   It only pressurizes to 5-6 psi I wonder if th...   Oct 6 2020, 06:47 PM
iankarr   [quote name='Olympic 914' post='2857140' date='Oc...   Oct 6 2020, 07:59 PM
Tdskip   The other thing that I would add is that for whate...   Oct 4 2020, 10:55 AM
iankarr   I like to use pressure (motive @ 5-10 psi) followe...   Oct 4 2020, 11:12 AM
rhodyguy   Get some speed bleeders. One for each caliper. Ins...   Oct 4 2020, 12:05 PM
Gint   Get some speed bleeders. One for each caliper. Ins...   Oct 6 2020, 04:45 PM
Amphicar770   I had no luck vacuum bleeding the 914, couldn...   Oct 6 2020, 05:19 PM
Medtner3   I had no luck vacuum bleeding the 914, couldn...   Oct 6 2020, 06:49 PM
rjames   I could never get the brakes bled properly until I...   Oct 7 2020, 11:07 AM
Medtner3   I could never get the brakes bled properly until ...   Oct 9 2020, 05:17 PM
draganc   Assuming you are not in a rush to drive the car I ...   Oct 8 2020, 05:38 PM
Medtner3   Damaged master cylinder or impatient? I put on spe...   Oct 8 2020, 07:13 PM
davep   Have you correctly set the venting clearance on th...   Oct 8 2020, 08:09 PM
Medtner3   Have you correctly set the venting clearance on t...   Oct 9 2020, 07:27 AM
Gint   Have you correctly set the venting clearance on th...   Oct 10 2020, 09:55 AM
Medtner3   [quote name='Medtner3' post='2857647' date='Oct 9...   Oct 11 2020, 08:30 PM
Medtner3   UPDATE: Pedal bled four times have a pedal now it...   Oct 9 2020, 05:19 PM
Frankvw   I understans it is very frustrating yes. Keep up t...   Oct 10 2020, 06:44 AM
davep   http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=3...   Oct 10 2020, 09:27 PM
mb911   Kind of have the same issue.. The entire brake sys...   Oct 11 2020, 06:36 AM
iankarr   Kind of have the same issue.. The entire brake sy...   Oct 11 2020, 07:08 AM
mb911   Kind of have the same issue.. The entire brake s...   Oct 11 2020, 07:10 AM
Medtner3   [quote name='iankarr' post='2858075' date='Oct 11...   Oct 11 2020, 08:31 PM
Medtner3   [quote name='iankarr' post='2858075' date='Oct 1...   Oct 11 2020, 08:33 PM


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