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| john77 |
Oct 1 2020, 04:04 PM
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Started the process of GT flaring my car this week.
(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/live.staticflickr.com-17027-1601589977.1.jpg) The plan is to weld all four flares on first, then widen the rears to fit 9s, and in the process strip the car panel by panel for a repaint. The rear arches had been pulled at some point in the 90s to fit 7s, and I knew they'd gone to town with bondo to smooth the driver's side out because there was a crack. The picture below is a cross section cut through the arch once I removed it... that's 0.5 inches of bondo right there (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/live.staticflickr.com-17027-1601589886.1.jpg) After making the initial rough cuts it dawned on me I'm probably going to need to remove the rear quarter oil tank to give me enough clearance to tig weld the flare on the front and back. I can only see one bolt, inside the engine bay - is that the only thing holding the tank in place? Also, dumb question, can I remove the tank without having to drain my engine oil first? I didn't think this far ahead and only changed my oil last month (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif) |
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| Literati914 |
Oct 16 2020, 09:57 PM
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@john77
Wow I was surprised to read your thread and come across someone else willing to roll paint onto their car !! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif) . I have my project car (which is outdoors/unprotected) in epoxy primer now after stripping it down to bare metal, then rolling it on with 4" rollers from Home Depot (don't laugh). The thing is, I expected a good amount of orange peal - which I got, 'cause I plan on blocking it down (filler work was done before the epoxy). Then I plan to roll on polyester primer surfacer (2K high build primer).. and block it down too. My time is free, so.. But that brings me to a consideration that I wonder if you'd thought about.. and that is, while the epoxy primer creates a sort of hard shell that doesn't easily/quickly soak up moisture - the 2K high build would. So you'd want to be ready to spray once you get the 2K blocked down straight. But nothing says it couldn't be sprayed a panel at a time. I hate to admit this but I've actually even thought about rolling on the UA single stage paint that I'll be using. I mean, I do have the compressor and spray equipment but if you plan to wet sand the entire car anyway.. I'm not sure it wouldn't work (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) . The advantages for me being that I would not have to invest in purchasing and putting up a temporary garage to shoot in, seal it, purchase exhaust fans, etc. Also, the lack of highly aerosol-ed paint may not smell as bad and get the attention of fewer pissed off neighbors. Not to mention, may be less hazardous to me - I don't completely trust the respirator/masks (though I'd still wear one) - and professional paint is dangerous stuff. But, I have not decided against spraying either. So I will be getting an idea of it's feasibility by rolling it on the under-side of the car, wheel wells and longs first. I know this is probably crazy, but we'll see before going all in on the visible parts of the car. Anyway, your project is coming along nicely, keep it up (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) |
| john77 |
Oct 17 2020, 12:04 AM
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@Literati914
The roll on epoxy I have is 2K and, if Eastwood’s to be believed, is self-leveling. As long as I prep the metal correctly I don’t see orange peel being an issue. My plan is to only do epoxy so I don’t have to worry about moisture. I’ll only do primer surfacer and block when I’m ready for color/clear. Can you sand color? I was under the impression if you do you have to do another coat or it will show through the clear. @john77 Wow I was surprised to read your thread and come across someone else willing to roll paint onto their car !! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif) . I have my project car (which is outdoors/unprotected) in epoxy primer now after stripping it down to bare metal, then rolling it on with 4" rollers from Home Depot (don't laugh). The thing is, I expected a good amount of orange peal - which I got, 'cause I plan on blocking it down (filler work was done before the epoxy). Then I plan to roll on polyester primer surfacer (2K high build primer).. and block it down too. My time is free, so.. But that brings me to a consideration that I wonder if you'd thought about.. and that is, while the epoxy primer creates a sort of hard shell that doesn't easily/quickly soak up moisture - the 2K high build would. So you'd want to be ready to spray once you get the 2K blocked down straight. But nothing says it couldn't be sprayed a panel at a time. I hate to admit this but I've actually even thought about rolling on the UA single stage paint that I'll be using. I mean, I do have the compressor and spray equipment but if you plan to wet sand the entire car anyway.. I'm not sure it wouldn't work (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) . The advantages for me being that I would not have to invest in purchasing and putting up a temporary garage to shoot in, seal it, purchase exhaust fans, etc. Also, the lack of highly aerosol-ed paint may not smell as bad and get the attention of fewer pissed off neighbors. Not to mention, may be less hazardous to me - I don't completely trust the respirator/masks (though I'd still wear one) - and professional paint is dangerous stuff. But, I have not decided against spraying either. So I will be getting an idea of it's feasibility by rolling it on the under-side of the car, wheel wells and longs first. I know this is probably crazy, but we'll see before going all in on the visible parts of the car. Anyway, your project is coming along nicely, keep it up (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) |
john77 Another GT Look-a-Likey Project thread Oct 1 2020, 04:04 PM
Luke M If it's a factory 914-6 oil tank there's 3... Oct 1 2020, 05:14 PM
mepstein
If it's a factory 914-6 oil tank there's ... Oct 1 2020, 05:32 PM
john77 Thanks Luke.
There aren't any markings on it... Oct 1 2020, 05:38 PM
Luke M I'm not sure how the PMS tank mounts at the re... Oct 1 2020, 05:46 PM
mlindner Hi John, don't know if you have this for GT fe... Oct 2 2020, 04:18 AM
john77 I don’t, this is perfect! Thanks Mark. Will ... Oct 2 2020, 07:43 AM
mlindner And should be flush or flat on top. Best, Mark Oct 2 2020, 07:54 AM
john77 @[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showu... Oct 2 2020, 12:16 PM
mepstein Front right is passenger
Right and left is always ... Oct 2 2020, 01:20 PM
john77 You’d think that, right? But after rough fitting... Oct 2 2020, 01:47 PM
mepstein
You’d think that, right? But after rough fittin... Oct 2 2020, 05:43 PM
john77 @[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showu... Oct 2 2020, 05:59 PM
john77
@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?show... Oct 2 2020, 06:00 PM
mepstein
[quote name='john77' post='2856199' date='Oct 2 2... Oct 2 2020, 06:47 PM
mb911 What you going to use for rockers? Don't forge... Oct 2 2020, 05:18 PM
john77 I was thinking that as I was cutting the fender ... Oct 2 2020, 06:05 PM
mlindner John77, Ben (mb911) has already made the ends for ... Oct 4 2020, 09:26 AM
john77 Thanks Mark.
@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/... Oct 4 2020, 10:11 AM
Tdskip
Thanks Mark.
@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2... Oct 4 2020, 12:01 PM
mb911 Thanks guys. I will build up a set for you.. Oct 4 2020, 12:03 PM
john77 Got the first flare fitted after marking and trimm... Oct 9 2020, 03:23 PM
Cairo94507 Nice save on the antenna hole. That rust would ha... Oct 10 2020, 06:01 AM
Tdskip Thanks for the updates, please keep the, coming. Oct 10 2020, 06:44 AM
mb911 Nice job.. I had to do the same thing on my car.. Oct 10 2020, 06:48 AM
john77 Thanks guys Oct 11 2020, 11:28 AM
john77 Saturday's progress:
3 years ago I took a met... Oct 11 2020, 12:41 PM
john77 Got home from the shop on Saturday night to find a... Oct 11 2020, 12:41 PM
ri914
Got home from the shop on Saturday night to find ... Oct 11 2020, 08:53 PM
john77 Thanks!
Your workshop looks amazing. Is it a ... Oct 11 2020, 09:30 PM
Cairo94507 Nice work and progress. I hate thieves- let's... Oct 12 2020, 07:35 AM
john77 Thanks. I'd love to paint it myself if I can. ... Oct 12 2020, 10:03 PM
john77 I'm going to be getting a new front valance to... Oct 12 2020, 10:21 PM
campbellcj
I'm going to be getting a new front valance t... Oct 17 2020, 07:54 AM
Mayne Great work! I noticed in your first post that ... Oct 13 2020, 06:07 AM
john77 @[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showu... Oct 13 2020, 09:41 AM
Cairo94507 Keep a 4x4 post near your driveway and drop it int... Oct 13 2020, 07:10 AM
john77 @[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showu... Oct 13 2020, 09:51 AM
PanelBilly EST to fold the lip back. That will give you a bit... Oct 13 2020, 10:18 AM
john77 Ha, I feel your pain. It never even occurred to me... Oct 13 2020, 10:29 AM
sixnotfour 15x9 245/50 lips folded up,,,my other 914, are wid... Oct 13 2020, 02:04 PM
john77 Ahhh, okay, now I see what PanelBilly meant. I had... Oct 13 2020, 04:57 PM
John I run 9x16 on all 4 corners on the track car and h... Oct 13 2020, 09:38 PM
john77 @[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showu... Oct 13 2020, 10:02 PM
914dave 9 x 16 have a more favorable offset than the 9 x 1... Oct 16 2020, 07:39 PM
john77 Slowly making progress metal finishing the weld on... Oct 16 2020, 09:44 PM
Literati914
[b]@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?s... Oct 17 2020, 10:32 AM
john77 Can't believe I started this in October - I... Feb 1 2021, 02:21 PM
john77 I'm really happy with the way the passenger si... Feb 1 2021, 02:35 PM
john77 This is how the car sits right now. Both front fen... Feb 1 2021, 03:03 PM
john77 I finally got the flares finished, can't belie... Jun 3 2021, 02:33 PM
john77 Some other stuff I got done...
Stripped all 4 whe... Jun 3 2021, 02:39 PM
john77 This was the state of the driver door after I... Jun 3 2021, 02:42 PM
john77 The bottoms of the flares didn't run in a stra... Jun 3 2021, 02:51 PM
john77 I was inspired by another member (can't rememb... Jun 3 2021, 03:11 PM
john77 One last post for now, here's are some pics th... Jun 3 2021, 03:23 PM
john77 http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/live.... Jun 3 2021, 03:26 PM
gereed75 Wow. Looking really good! Jun 3 2021, 04:34 PM
john77 Thanks!
Plan is to enjoy driving it for a few... Jun 3 2021, 05:09 PM
PanelBilly Watching you do this brings back so many memories.... Jun 3 2021, 05:07 PM
john77 Haha, I hear you.
It was a lot more work than I e... Jun 3 2021, 05:15 PM
infraredcalvin Wow, great work so far, very inspiring. Keep it u... Jun 3 2021, 10:23 PM
john77 Thanks!
Wow, great work so far, very inspiri... Jul 17 2021, 03:45 PM
john77 My new airdam won't clear from the street up m... Jul 17 2021, 04:10 PM
Maltese Falcon I think that your approach is as severe as my neig... Jul 17 2021, 04:46 PM
rhodyguy Nice fix to an unfixable situation. Jul 17 2021, 04:50 PM
john77 Thanks man.
Nice fix to an unfixable situation.
... Jul 17 2021, 05:32 PM
Maltese Falcon
Thanks man.
Nice fix to an unfixable situation.... Jul 17 2021, 07:16 PM
bbrock Just awesome! :cheer: That's the kind of c... Jul 17 2021, 07:32 PM
john77 Thanks Brent!
There’s so much over-engineer... Jul 17 2021, 09:39 PM![]() ![]() |
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