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| pt_700 |
Sep 26 2020, 03:18 PM
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,111 Joined: 4-March 10 From: san jose, ca Member No.: 11,430 Region Association: Northern California
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given the caliber of 914 stewardship here, i kind of already know...
i'm in the midst of installing a "new to me" 1.7. not intended to be the "end all, be all" powertrain, this is more of a "tide me over" until i do my long intended small block conversion. as expected, i'm doing a lot of "while i'm in there..." work. after taking a wire wheel to my battery tray and hell hole, there's more of "less" in the former, while the later is still solid. battery tray support is also still solid. tray itself feels solid, i've been using it as a step to get in and out of the engine bay to do things like body to motor mount bar brackest, upgrade firewall shifter bushing, fuel lines (while i'm in there stuff) etc... is replacing the battery tray an "i can't believe you haven't done this already?!", or can i put it off a few more years (until the engine upgrade) with rust treatment? the car will almost never see rain, will be driven very occasionally and lives in a garage. anybody have a battery go "walkabout" while driving due to such a tray? if i'm convinced i should replaced the battery tray now, what's a ballpark figure for that welding job? i have a few friends that weld but, it's a bit more of a favor than i'm comfortable asking, unless my favor balance was well into the black... these particular friends have already helped me way more than i've been able to help them, my conscience dictates monetary payment. |
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| Superhawk996 |
Oct 17 2020, 06:53 AM
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914 Guru ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 7,507 Joined: 25-August 18 From: Woods of N. Idaho Member No.: 22,428 Region Association: Galt's Gulch
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Glad to see you're getting after it and that the metal is pretty solid in Hell Hole. You're really lucky on that account.
Hard to tell from pictures but it seems like you still have quite a bit of corrosion there. I've found that when I apply Ospho or Metal Prep it helps to let it turn black and dry. Then go back and wire wheel it again. Wear a respirator. That digs out more of the rust that Ospho neutralized, and then reapply again. Sometimes I do this 2 -3 times if the rust and pitting was deep. Eventually you'll find that when you appply the rust neuatralizer that you're not getting nearly as much blackening (rust conversion) meaning there is very little active rust actually left down in the pitting that is getting neutralized. |
| Tdskip |
Oct 17 2020, 07:21 AM
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 3,747 Joined: 1-December 17 From: soCal Member No.: 21,666 Region Association: None
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Glad to see you're getting after it and that the metal is pretty solid in Hell Hole. You're really lucky on that account. Hard to tell from pictures but it seems like you still have quite a bit of corrosion there. I've found that when I apply Ospho or Metal Prep it helps to let it turn black and dry. Then go back and wire wheel it again. Wear a respirator. That digs out more of the rust that Ospho neutralized, and then reapply again. Sometimes I do this 2 -3 times if the rust and pitting was deep. Eventually you'll find that when you appply the rust neuatralizer that you're not getting nearly as much blackening (rust conversion) meaning there is very little active rust actually left down in the pitting that is getting neutralized. Exactly how I do it - takes some time but you need to do 3 or 4 cycles like that to make sure the metal is clean. There will always be more rust under the black spots on the first couple passes. @pt_700 thanks for the update and no need to afford anything! You are getting it done. |
pt_700 my battery tray and hell hole Sep 26 2020, 03:18 PM
914Sixer Really nice, simple battery tray replacement. :b... Sep 26 2020, 05:56 PM
BillC I would replace the battery tray, especially while... Sep 26 2020, 07:22 PM
Coondog Consider yourself lucky....... :first: Sep 26 2020, 07:27 PM
bkrantz One other option: surgically remove the old tray, ... Sep 26 2020, 08:32 PM
cary Be careful removing / detaching tray from the wall... Sep 26 2020, 10:28 PM
Superhawk996 Not sure if it is just shadowing but I think I see... Sep 27 2020, 08:42 AM
pt_700 thankfully superhawk, those are just shadows, it... Sep 27 2020, 11:25 AM
ndfrigi
thankfully superhawk, those are just shadows, it... Sep 27 2020, 01:04 PM
Tdskip Are you sure those are shadows? Think @superhawk9... Sep 27 2020, 11:28 AM
rjames Like others have said, just remove the battery tra... Sep 27 2020, 11:39 AM
VaccaRabite Just get the part from Restoration Design.
The pa... Sep 27 2020, 06:35 PM
pt_700 tray's been ordered from restoration designs.
... Sep 27 2020, 10:37 PM
Tdskip
tray's been ordered from restoration designs.... Sep 30 2020, 07:03 AM
ctc911ctc You have no idea how lucky you are! Sep 29 2020, 03:25 PM
Frankvw in case you are going for the 'top-tray-only... Sep 30 2020, 12:51 AM
malcolm2 My 2 cents on the rust.... Some people like the s... Sep 30 2020, 07:13 AM
rjames
My 2 cents on the rust.... Some people like the ... Sep 30 2020, 10:15 AM
Superhawk996 I'd love for that hell hole to have been my st... Sep 30 2020, 08:34 AM
mlindner Last replace with a gel battery/ non-acid. Sep 30 2020, 10:18 AM
sholman5
Instead of welding the tray and support in place... Sep 30 2020, 10:30 AM
pt_700 i'm liking the idea of a bolt in tray and or s... Sep 30 2020, 11:39 AM
Frankvw wow, great result to show for !!!... Sep 30 2020, 11:45 AM
sholman5
i'm liking the idea of a bolt in tray and or ... Sep 30 2020, 02:52 PM
Frankvw Yes that helps !!
"For the tray I use... Oct 1 2020, 04:12 AM
pt_700 so, you can't get behind where you bolted the ... Oct 1 2020, 10:08 PM
mtndawg I’ve done a bolt down battery tray in 2 cars. Lo... Oct 1 2020, 10:36 PM
pt_700 nutsert is one of the products (rivetnuts too). l... Oct 6 2020, 12:11 PM
pt_700 finally some progress on this, intervening was the... Oct 16 2020, 09:59 PM
mlindner PT 700, using revnuts...make sure they fit very ti... Oct 17 2020, 08:05 AM
pt_700 thanks for the tips! i'll get back in the... Oct 17 2020, 11:25 AM
pt_700 one small step forward, two steps back... not une... Oct 18 2020, 10:51 PM
Superhawk996
having seen much worse repaired here, i know i... Oct 19 2020, 06:27 AM
sholman5 Last picture. It is a drain for any moisture that ... Oct 19 2020, 03:09 AM
pt_700 thanks gents! at the time i discovered that i... Oct 19 2020, 08:18 AM
pt_700 took a few weeks off from the 914 while working on... Nov 6 2020, 06:30 PM
seanpaulmc Thank you for posting this. Love seeing the tools... Nov 6 2020, 07:05 PM![]() ![]() |
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