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Midenginer
post Dec 14 2020, 01:37 AM
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Hello,

Craig here from Southern California, good to meet you all!
I'm pretty excited about looking into buying a childhood dream car as a weekly driver for my short commute 1000' down the hill and up the canyon, Sunday drive, autocross, etc. and could use some advice.

My only other real sports car was one of the first 2006 Cayman S, which I had as my daily driver company car up to 115k miles. Loved it but maintenance / depreciation were costly and our first son in 2010 and second in 2016 led to a Volt and now my 2019 Cherokee Trailhawk which I'll keep as my daily driver.

I love watching all the beauties and reading the comments on BringaTrailer. Frankly, I should have bought a classic and a commuter rather than the Cayman in '06. My other 70's childhood dream cars Pantera, Ferrari's, Countach are all out of my budget and just as well because I think a 914 will suit me perfectly...but I've never even ridden in one, let alone driven one, so that's first on my list to do this week!

I'm not too concerned that I'll love driving one so the next big question is, for a budget of low $20's what should I get;
A) Best 2.0 I can find, hopefully black, with some smart mechanical and cosmetic modifications. Merry Christmas to me in 2020 possibly!
B) Can I build a 914 6 driver from a roller for that $? I would get the body work done, stick to a Porsche motor, any necessary suspension work, etc to start. I realize 6 restomods sell way above my budget but could I have a solid 6 driver built from a roller within my budget and then improve on it from there? I wouldn't want to wait years to get rolling either. Merry Christmas to me in 21? 22?? ok either way but the budget doesn't double;).

BTW, I don't have the experience, tools, time, space to do the work myself, as much as I like the idea just not realistic, so would have to find pros to do it. I lean towards B but if it's a stupid idea I'm ok, even appreciate, if you tell me so. If its unanimously a genius idea I'm ok with that too!

Hope this is the appropriate forum for this question.

Thanks for your time and expertise. Look forward to any comments...

Cheers,
Craig
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post Dec 14 2020, 06:29 AM
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x2 on buy. Plenty of nice cars out there for sale. Given a busy family, I would picture a "build" spending most of the time unbuilt in a bay of your garage. I can't imagine there aren't other our here local to you to offer up a ride (even during a pandemic?) as these cars are infectious!

But, even the "best" one will have some niddling things that need attention and the worst bought ones will need a LOT of attending too. And you will need to learn about "old school maintenance" vs just plugging a scanner into an OBDII port.

Drool over samples that have sold on BAT and here and spend some time researching these cars.

Wipe those dreams of a $20K 914/6 (or -6 project) unless you do ALL body/mechanical/paint yourself AND you don't keep track of any receipts, physically or mentally (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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post Dec 14 2020, 07:00 AM
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QUOTE(Racer @ Dec 14 2020, 07:29 AM) *



Wipe those dreams of a $20K 914/6 (or -6 project) unless you do ALL body/mechanical/paint yourself AND you don't keep track of any receipts, physically or mentally (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)


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You can't touch engine and the parts needed for conversion for $20K. I'm in the process myself and have the tools, space, and can do almost all work myself

Currently in for about $10k in 2.4L machine work for case, heads, crank. OEM bearings alone are $1200. I'm building motor myself and I'm no where near done yet. Still need Pistons & cylinder, induction, new cam chains, chain ramps, rebuild hydraulic tensioners, misc.

914/6 Exhaust headers $1400 - $2300 (w/heat exchangers)
914/6 Muffler - $600-800
Oil Lines hard & soft lines - $300-500
Engine Mount $350
Oil Tank & filler - $500 - 900
914/6 Flywheel - $500
5 Lug conversion - $500 - $1K not counting the actual wheels.
Still a ton of other miscellaneous bits I've not even mentioned.

You get the picture. Unless you're crazy like me (IMG:style_emoticons/default/screwy.gif) and enjoy building stuff as therapy, you're far better off to buy a conversion that is already done.

Stick with Option A. Buy the best 914/4 car you can afford & then enjoy it. Buy a conversion later on as funds permit.
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post Dec 14 2020, 06:19 PM
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QUOTE(Superhawk996 @ Dec 14 2020, 08:00 AM) *

QUOTE(Racer @ Dec 14 2020, 07:29 AM) *



Wipe those dreams of a $20K 914/6 (or -6 project) unless you do ALL body/mechanical/paint yourself AND you don't keep track of any receipts, physically or mentally (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)


(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif)

You can't touch engine and the parts needed for conversion for $20K. I'm in the process myself and have the tools, space, and can do almost all work myself

Currently in for about $10k in 2.4L machine work for case, heads, crank. OEM bearings alone are $1200. I'm building motor myself and I'm no where near done yet. Still need Pistons & cylinder, induction, new cam chains, chain ramps, rebuild hydraulic tensioners, misc.

914/6 Exhaust headers $1400 - $2300 (w/heat exchangers)
914/6 Muffler - $600-800
Oil Lines hard & soft lines - $300-500
Engine Mount $350
Oil Tank & filler - $500 - 900
914/6 Flywheel - $500
5 Lug conversion - $500 - $1K not counting the actual wheels.
Still a ton of other miscellaneous bits I've not even mentioned.

You get the picture. Unless you're crazy like me (IMG:style_emoticons/default/screwy.gif) and enjoy building stuff as therapy, you're far better off to buy a conversion that is already done.

Stick with Option A. Buy the best 914/4 car you can afford & then enjoy it. Buy a conversion later on as funds permit.


+1 with this response, my vote is option A
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Midenginer   Newbie Introduction   Dec 14 2020, 01:37 AM
falcor75   For 20k forget about the -6 unless you luck out on...   Dec 14 2020, 02:02 AM
Frankvw   Option A it is, since Option B is no option, serio...   Dec 14 2020, 03:21 AM
Racer   x2 on buy. Plenty of nice cars out there for sale....   Dec 14 2020, 06:29 AM
Superhawk996   Wipe those dreams of a $20K 914/6 (or -6 p...   Dec 14 2020, 07:00 AM
930cabman   Wipe those dreams of a $20K 914/6 (or -6 ...   Dec 14 2020, 06:19 PM
Cairo94507   Hi Craig - I agree with all of the above. Buy the...   Dec 14 2020, 07:52 AM
Coondog   Welcome, your first step is to hook up with myself...   Dec 14 2020, 08:42 AM
bbrock   Add me to the list of folks saying that Option A i...   Dec 14 2020, 09:10 AM
914e   I would buy the best driver you can. Get some basi...   Dec 14 2020, 09:14 AM
Midenginer   Thanks guys! I had a strong feeling that was g...   Dec 14 2020, 09:41 AM
Coondog   Thanks guys! I had a strong feeling that was ...   Dec 14 2020, 10:22 AM
Midenginer   Thanks guys! I had a strong feeling that was...   Dec 14 2020, 11:07 AM
brant   [quote name='Coondog' post='2874803' date='Dec 14...   Dec 14 2020, 11:12 AM
Midenginer   [quote name='Midenginer' post='2874816' date='Dec...   Dec 14 2020, 11:37 AM
gereed75   Definitely A - B at $20K is a pipe dream. An...   Dec 14 2020, 09:45 AM
Spoke   :wttc: Keep the big picture in mind: What do you...   Dec 14 2020, 11:48 AM
Midenginer   :wttc: Keep the big picture in mind: What do yo...   Dec 14 2020, 11:56 AM
Coondog   Hope you are able to purchase the BAT car but I am...   Dec 14 2020, 12:00 PM
rjames   Hope you are able to purchase the BAT car but I a...   Dec 14 2020, 12:08 PM
Midenginer   Hope you are able to purchase the BAT car but I ...   Dec 14 2020, 12:45 PM
PanelBilly   Buy a Miata   Dec 14 2020, 12:06 PM
Midenginer   Buy a Miata Sound advice but I may not have the...   Dec 14 2020, 12:49 PM
Superhawk996   Buy a Miata Bite yer' tongue. Sagrilege...   Dec 14 2020, 02:31 PM
Steve   You might also have better luck with Craigslist. ...   Dec 14 2020, 01:02 PM
Midenginer   You might also have better luck with Craigslist. ...   Dec 14 2020, 01:13 PM
FRUNKenstein   You might also have better luck with Craigslist. ...   Dec 14 2020, 02:47 PM
Midenginer   You might also have better luck with Craigslist....   Dec 14 2020, 03:08 PM
Midenginer   You might also have better luck with Craigslist. ...   Dec 14 2020, 04:37 PM
bobboinski   You might also have better luck with Craigslist....   Dec 14 2020, 07:33 PM
Midenginer   [quote name='Midenginer' post='2874936' date='Dec...   Dec 15 2020, 12:29 AM
Steve   [quote name='Midenginer' post='2874936' date='De...   Dec 15 2020, 09:25 AM
Tdskip   As has been cooperatively beaten into your head an...   Dec 14 2020, 01:26 PM
Midenginer   As has been cooperatively beaten into your head a...   Dec 14 2020, 01:42 PM
Tdskip   There was one in Seal Beach that was discussed rec...   Dec 14 2020, 01:44 PM
Midenginer   There was one in Seal Beach that was discussed re...   Dec 14 2020, 02:27 PM
Cairo94507   I agree with Greg, @coondog , the '73 on BAT ...   Dec 14 2020, 02:49 PM
Midenginer   I agree with Greg, [b]@[url=http://www.914world....   Dec 14 2020, 03:09 PM
Mikey914   Buy the best you can, the 6 is probably off the ta...   Dec 14 2020, 04:53 PM
Craigers17   Sounds to me like you have a great game plan. Tha...   Dec 14 2020, 06:16 PM
Midenginer   Sounds to me like you have a great game plan. Th...   Dec 14 2020, 07:18 PM
bkrantz   Sounds to me like you have a great game plan. Th...   Dec 14 2020, 08:20 PM
Midenginer   Sounds to me like you have a great game plan. T...   Dec 14 2020, 11:30 PM
Midenginer   Sounds to me like you have a great game plan. T...   Dec 15 2020, 12:20 AM
Midenginer   Steve, Keith, Tom, Thanks for coming to check out ...   Dec 15 2020, 06:48 PM
Tdskip   You are welcome (says Tom). Good luck on the bidd...   Dec 15 2020, 06:52 PM
Midenginer   You are welcome (says Tom). Good luck on the bid...   Dec 17 2020, 01:24 AM
914_teener   Option C given your introduction. Buy a used Caym...   Dec 15 2020, 07:19 PM
Midenginer   Option C given your introduction. Buy a used Cay...   Dec 17 2020, 01:40 AM
RiqueMar   Dropping in my 2-cents into this thread. I drove n...   Dec 17 2020, 12:15 PM
Midenginer   Dropping in my 2-cents into this thread. I drove ...   Dec 17 2020, 08:05 PM
930cabman   Option C given your introduction. Buy a used Cay...   Dec 17 2020, 05:36 PM
type2man   I sure as hell wouldnt pay 35k for the 914 on BAT,...   Dec 15 2020, 07:53 PM
Midenginer   I sure as hell wouldnt pay 35k for the 914 on BAT...   Dec 17 2020, 01:29 AM
burton73   I sure as hell wouldnt pay 35k for the 914 on BAT...   Dec 17 2020, 03:42 PM
ericoneal   Buy my 2.0 and use the leftover money for an aweso...   Dec 17 2020, 12:34 PM
Cairo94507   That was a good buy at that price. Great call Typ...   Dec 17 2020, 04:01 PM
Coondog   That was a good buy at that price. Great call Ty...   Dec 17 2020, 04:47 PM
Midenginer   914 Worlders, especially Steve, Keith, Tom, and Jo...   Jan 8 2021, 02:01 AM
euro911   You're more than welcome to join in at any of ...   Jan 8 2021, 02:55 AM
Tdskip   Congratulations and by all means keep in touch   Jan 8 2021, 07:54 AM
GBX0073   Congrats on the lotus ,having a young family and a...   Jan 8 2021, 10:48 AM
Midenginer   Agreed, the people here really do go out of there ...   Jan 8 2021, 11:25 AM


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