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914/4: 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 914/6: 70 71 72
| TonyA |
Aug 11 2020, 08:49 AM
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Maybe i ma crazy but are these available anywhere, or has anyone ever attempted to bleach and dye a hose?
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| wonkipop |
Jan 25 2021, 05:07 PM
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something not in discussion so far is the 914/6.
in 1970 theres two fuel systems in 914s. EFI as per vw in the 4. 2 large 3 barrel carburettors with 6 float bowls, or is it two large float bowls one in each carb?, in the 6 (as with most 911s, a few ran k jet or MFI, but a lot ran carbs - even in USA?). as an aside - by 73/74 the 911 had gone over completely to fuel injection in the usa? 6 bowls/2 large bowls is a very large vapour load on hot shutdown, (heat soak phase). it would track back to the can through the suction line. thinking if: a) there were two systems plumbed in early cars from (69)70 to 72/73? or b) porsche plumbed 4s and 6s the same way but designed the system for the 6. its the one thing that is a tangible difference between porsches and the vw porsches (4s). porsche plumbing of the evap system in the opposite manner would make sense to me then. vapor load from the massive carb setup would be significant enough to plumb the can so that the full length of the carbon contents could absorb vapors after shutdown before full saturation and vapor leaked out the fan hose at the opposite end located near or adjacent to the tank vapor line (with still some carbon separating those two). i found other material in my files from independent publisher shop manuals that indicates vw plumbing for 914s. cypress manual 1986 and carbooks manual 1972. probably means nothing. could also be a tech research error. one way you could verify it with early cars since the lines disappear into the sills and emerge at either end in the front boot (trunk) and engine bay would be to pull them off and do a blow test to see which is which? its easy to track the lines in a 74-on car - all fully visible in engine bay. with early cars its a little harder to know for sure which hose was what at either end - and were they the same in a 4 or a 6 when they popped out at either end. has anyone ever done that - verified the plumbing on both an early 4 or 6 matches the pre 74 emissions warranty and porsche evap layout? its all academic - the system will still work either way as SB says. the vapors are entering a can full of charcoal and coming out of it again. i think one set up purges more efficiently than the other. originality and preservation are another matter. |
TonyA Colored hoses Aug 11 2020, 08:49 AM
Dion Tony, the only place I’ve ever seen have them ha... Aug 13 2020, 05:00 AM
TonyA
Tony, the only place I’ve ever seen have them h... Aug 13 2020, 07:23 PM
aturboman Tony I have a roll each of original RED & GREE... Aug 14 2020, 01:56 PM
TonyA
Tony I have a roll each of original RED & GRE... Aug 14 2020, 03:26 PM
bbrock
Maybe i ma crazy but are these available anywhere... Jan 18 2021, 10:27 AM
JeffBowlsby OOooooh nice. Will you be taking orders for sets ... Jan 18 2021, 10:37 AM
wonkipop out of interest, does anyone know if the 1.8s orig... Jan 18 2021, 04:37 PM
StarBear
out of interest, does anyone know if the 1.8s ori... Jan 19 2021, 05:15 PM
wonkipop
[quote name='wonkipop' post='2883887' date='Jan 1... Jan 20 2021, 03:10 AM
StarBear
[quote name='wonkipop' post='2883887' date='Jan ... Jan 20 2021, 12:41 PM
StarBear
[quote name='wonkipop' post='2884296' date='Jan 2... Jan 20 2021, 12:45 PM
bbrock
I stand self-corrected; looks like I have two gre... Jan 21 2021, 08:46 AM
wonkipop beaudy starbear.
that info is great.
i had an ear... Jan 20 2021, 04:45 PM
StarBear
beaudy starbear.
that info is great.
i had an ea... Jan 20 2021, 05:57 PM
StarBear
beaudy starbear.
that info is great.
i had an ea... Jan 21 2021, 08:36 AM
StarBear @wonkipop Here is a revised layout diagram, show... Jan 21 2021, 11:51 AM
JeffBowlsby
[b]@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?s... Jan 22 2021, 01:01 AM
wonkipop i'm going to start a new topic on 1.8 hoses st... Jan 21 2021, 02:24 PM
wonkipop hmmm, its interesting.
thats certainly true of the... Jan 22 2021, 02:21 AM
StarBear Ditto per @wonkipop; see my Virgo/Engineer evaluat... Jan 22 2021, 09:34 AM
wonkipop of interest re evap emissions plumbing.
73 beetle.... Jan 22 2021, 11:04 AM
wonkipop researched this last year when replacing vacuum ho... Jan 22 2021, 11:21 AM
wonkipop re mr sb's thoughts on emissions engineering/w... Jan 22 2021, 12:35 PM
wonkipop 74 emmission warranty material.
Jan 22 2021, 01:05 PM
StarBear Wow; you da man @wonkipop ! So much to learn... Jan 22 2021, 02:34 PM
wonkipop i only know our cars starbear.
i don't know an... Jan 22 2021, 04:04 PM
wonkipop vw technical booklet, date 1970.
explains the evap... Jan 22 2021, 04:16 PM
wonkipop but this one is interesting.
porsche evap emissio... Jan 22 2021, 04:24 PM
JeffBowlsby w-pop, StarBear, I think you have made some intere... Jan 22 2021, 06:02 PM
wonkipop interesting mr. b.
i have a jan 74 build car.
p... Jan 22 2021, 06:45 PM
StarBear All; I opened my cannister a few months ago to ref... Jan 23 2021, 09:26 AM
StarBear @DCheek IRRC, you have a 1.8L 914 and an origina... Jan 23 2021, 12:46 PM
wonkipop
[b]@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?s... Jan 23 2021, 11:50 PM
wonkipop yes mr. sb. you can't find anything definitiv... Jan 23 2021, 06:29 PM
wonkipop a reasonably reputable 75 1.8 example.
would say 9... Jan 24 2021, 12:50 AM
StarBear @wonkipop - You could write a research paper, for... Jan 24 2021, 09:11 AM
StarBear @dr914 @autoatlanta.com
George - might you have an... Jan 24 2021, 09:17 AM
StarBear Another hose layout - presumably (?) a 74 1.8L wit... Jan 24 2021, 09:49 AM
wonkipop Evolution of the porsche evap system 1969-78 for 9... Jan 24 2021, 02:23 PM
StarBear :agree: Onward! Jan 24 2021, 02:40 PM
wonkipop i took a look at the can in my 74 1.8 yesterday.
i... Jan 25 2021, 05:21 PM
JeffBowlsby 2 of the plastic cans in my inventory from 1974 2.... Jan 25 2021, 08:37 PM
wonkipop its all pretty weird mr b.
apologies about all th... Jan 25 2021, 11:50 PM
wonkipop a couple of guys have pulled the earlier metal can... Jan 26 2021, 09:44 PM
bbrock I pulled apart my metal canister and replaced the ... Jan 27 2021, 03:37 PM
wonkipop
I pulled apart my metal canister and replaced the... Jan 27 2021, 04:50 PM
bbrock
i'll be leaving mine alone i think. i have t... Jan 28 2021, 09:05 AM
StarBear
i'll be leaving mine alone i think. i have ... Jan 28 2021, 01:47 PM
JeffBowlsby 113.201.801A 69-73 (into early 1974) 914 Jan 27 2021, 04:03 PM
wonkipop this is interesting mr. b.
was in my files, a 2.0 ... Jan 27 2021, 04:43 PM
Mark Henry Is the hose sizes correct in the pic below, are th... Feb 22 2021, 02:38 PM
StarBear
Is the hose sizes correct in the pic below, are t... Feb 23 2021, 07:19 AM
JeffBowlsby Here you go Mark, if you choose to use my hose dia... Feb 25 2021, 03:18 AM
Mark Henry Excellent!
Thank you Jeff I have four 2.0 buil... Feb 25 2021, 11:52 AM
StarBear @wonkipop - getting more info. Do you know the ap... Mar 18 2021, 03:11 PM
wonkipop
[b]@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?s... Mar 22 2021, 01:37 AM
StarBear Ok; here’s the best guesstimate. Counterflow hos... Mar 24 2021, 11:12 AM
wonkipop here is my view.
the 914 is an argument between p... Mar 25 2021, 02:34 AM
StarBear Yeah. Think I’ll do something useful - like have... Mar 25 2021, 02:58 PM
wonkipop
Yeah. Think I’ll do something useful - like hav... Mar 25 2021, 07:11 PM
wonkipop @StarBear
found another 1.8 dr.914 has for sale... Jul 3 2021, 07:08 PM
StarBear Ah, more evidence that “we” are unique and spe... Jul 3 2021, 08:52 PM
wonkipop @StarBear - real special cars buddy. :beer1:
o... Jul 3 2021, 09:23 PM
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