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> O2 Sensor, what to buy?
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post Feb 20 2021, 10:19 AM
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First, apologies because I know this has been covered somewhere but both local and Google search have failed me.

I'm heading to uncharted waters. All I know about O2 sensors are they are handy for measure A/F for tuning carbs and where to mount the bung. I have no clue about what is a good affordable sensor to buy for tuning a set of 40IDF Webers for a 2.0L engine. Don't even know whether wide band or narrow band is best. Just clueless really. Help Please!
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post Feb 21 2021, 10:11 AM
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Thanks all! This is fabulous info that gave me what I needed to figure this out.

My application is exactly as Mark describes - a one-and-done operation to set up the carbs. I'm not looking for any permanent monitoring. In fact, I'll be installing the bung in a Bursch muffler and then swap that muffler for @mb911 's quiet muffler once the carbs are dialed in. I would think a rental kit as Mark describes would be very appealing for guys like me. In my case, a local member ( @dr.tim ) has graciously offered to bring his jetting kit and walk me through the process so I'll only need to replace what we use. I also have a synch snail so that leaves me with the O2 sensor. Just like Mark says, it will probably get used once and then sit in a box as a fairly expensive bit of unused kit.

The next best option to a rental is a relatively inexpensive kit.

The Spartan 2 kit by 14point7 previously linked looks like a great option at $125 including the sensor. The also have a gauge for $50 so at $175 + a bung and maybe some additional cable, I'd be set. Although I enjoy tinkering with Arduino on various projects, I think it will be hard to beat that gauge on price to have something rugged enough to be useful.

The one I think I'll go for though is the INNOVATE LC-2: Complete Lambda Cable Kit (8 ft.) For $189 it's a complete kit including 1" bung. What I like is that the controller provides serial outputs to connect to my computer for monitoring and data logging. Should work great for temporary cable routing to my laptop in the passenger seat. It also won't be the worst thing to have this in the toolkit because some day I may look at converting to modern EFI where it might find a permanent home.

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QUOTE(bbrock @ Feb 21 2021, 08:11 AM) *

Thanks all! This is fabulous info that gave me what I needed to figure this out.

My application is exactly as Mark describes - a one-and-done operation to set up the carbs. I'm not looking for any permanent monitoring. In fact, I'll be installing the bung in a Bursch muffler and then swap that muffler for @mb911 's quiet muffler once the carbs are dialed in. I would think a rental kit as Mark describes would be very appealing for guys like me. In my case, a local member ( @dr.tim ) has graciously offered to bring his jetting kit and walk me through the process so I'll only need to replace what we use. I also have a synch snail so that leaves me with the O2 sensor. Just like Mark says, it will probably get used once and then sit in a box as a fairly expensive bit of unused kit.

The next best option to a rental is a relatively inexpensive kit.

The Spartan 2 kit by 14point7 previously linked looks like a great option at $125 including the sensor. The also have a gauge for $50 so at $175 + a bung and maybe some additional cable, I'd be set. Although I enjoy tinkering with Arduino on various projects, I think it will be hard to beat that gauge on price to have something rugged enough to be useful.

The one I think I'll go for though is the INNOVATE LC-2: Complete Lambda Cable Kit (8 ft.) For $189 it's a complete kit including 1" bung. What I like is that the controller provides serial outputs to connect to my computer for monitoring and data logging. Should work great for temporary cable routing to my laptop in the passenger seat. It also won't be the worst thing to have this in the toolkit because some day I may look at converting to modern EFI where it might find a permanent home.

Thanks all (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)


Good compromise, but a permanent installation will assist you trouble shooting fuel and or ignition issues.
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bbrock   O2 Sensor   Feb 20 2021, 10:19 AM
Olympic 914   I know many on here like the Innovate AFR. But I c...   Feb 20 2021, 10:42 AM
second wind   I know many on here like the Innovate AFR. But I ...   Feb 20 2021, 12:34 PM
Mark Henry   This is what I've wondered about a O2 meter re...   Feb 20 2021, 12:04 PM
Chris914n6   You need a wideband for tuning. Bosch makes them a...   Feb 20 2021, 12:32 PM
Driver174   I currently have a Wideband sensor and digital dis...   Feb 20 2021, 12:49 PM
914Toy   My O2 air/fuel mixture metering system experience ...   Feb 20 2021, 03:38 PM
bbrock   Thanks all! This is fabulous info that gave m...   Feb 21 2021, 10:11 AM
914Toy   Thanks all! This is fabulous info that gave ...   Feb 21 2021, 11:35 AM
bbrock   Good compromise, but a permanent installation wil...   Feb 21 2021, 11:54 AM
914Toy   Good compromise, but a permanent installation wi...   Feb 21 2021, 01:49 PM
Mark Henry   [quote name='bbrock' post='2893330' date='Feb 21 ...   Feb 21 2021, 04:49 PM
914Toy   [quote name='bbrock' post='2893330' date='Feb 21...   Feb 21 2021, 06:26 PM
mb911   Good compromise, but a permanent installation wi...   Feb 21 2021, 03:24 PM
bbrock   [quote name='bbrock' post='2893330' date='Feb 21 ...   Feb 21 2021, 05:17 PM
Mark Henry   As I said though, I'm seriously thinking of...   Feb 21 2021, 07:43 PM
bbrock   As I said though, I'm seriously thinking o...   Feb 21 2021, 09:30 PM
jd74914   [quote name='Mark Henry' post='2893472' date='Feb...   Feb 21 2021, 11:38 PM
mb911   I would be interested in a rental for sure. Let me...   Feb 21 2021, 10:44 AM
Mark Henry   I would be interested in a rental for sure. Let m...   Feb 21 2021, 11:16 AM
mb911   I would be interested in a rental for sure. Let ...   Feb 21 2021, 03:27 PM
Mark Henry   The Innovate says it uses the 4.2 or the 4.9 LSU, ...   Feb 21 2021, 11:10 AM


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