Roll Over, has anyone rolled their teener? Options

[DrifterJay]

Has anyone rolled a teener? Or know of the results of a hard roller? Does the stock roll bar hold up w/Targa in place? Or does it flatten... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) ?
Jared

[brant]

boy this is a big can of worms.

1st, regarding roll overs. The mere few I've seen are not a statistically important number. Just the same they are pretty sobering. A couple of friends were playing on the track and got too close. Both were in NICE original 2.0/6's. When car number 2 hit the rear of car number 1, (while entering a 50mph right hander) it drove up over the fender and literally barell rolled 180, flew over the top and landed on the passenger side roof.
Another friend of mine (liz) was supposed to be in the passenger seat getting an instruction ride at the time. Thank god she was late to grid, becaue the passenger side targa bar was flattened to the dash-level. The car #2 bounced off of the roof and did another 180 and finally landed on its wheels. The chassis was totaled.

2nd, and this is just my opinion... but I too think roll bars are a bad idea (generally) for the street. people die when they hit their heads on hard things. Seat belts stretch when they get old. (sanctioning bodies require regular replacement of belts that are a lot sturdier than stock) I recently heard a figure mentioned for how much a shoulder belt stretched in a certain G impact. I don't remember the figure, but it was surprising. Also surprising was the increased amount of stretch in a 3 year old belt.
I think a cage on the street with a race seat and proper belts is one thing. A cage on the street with stock belts and a stock seat, is just putting more hard things within reach of your head. So for the general public I don't think its a good idea.

brant