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| rick 918-S |
Sep 13 2021, 03:44 PM
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Hey nice rack! -Celette ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 21,144 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Now in Superior WI Member No.: 43 Region Association: Northstar Region
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I was helping my old high school pal attempt to get a 1.8 running. The car is his daughters. She really wants to take it on her drivers test. May be even this week. We had some strange stuff occur.
The car was purchased at Auction. It had an engine fire due to a cracked clamp on the cold start valve. The fire consumed the center of the engine harness. Through the generosity of Betty and Clay they received a parts box at no charge. Thank you again you two! I came into the picture when they had everything installed and we attempting to get it running. Turned out they accidentally broke the inlet on the cold start. So I was lucky enough to source one from Jim Hoiland. Thank you Jim! So with this install it would crank and barely run. Fuel pressure was at 40ish PSI. My friend Lowell smoke tested the intake system. All was tight. Once we had it firing barely.. Lowell pulled the plug on the AFM and the car raced to life. Weird I know. Pulled the plugs and notice #3-#4 were wet with Gas. #2 was dry like it never got fuel and #1 looked normal. Lowell ordered a set of Injectors. We believe due to the process of elimination two of the injector were stuck open and one was stuck closed. Noid lighted all injectors that they are getting signal. Any thoughts on the reason the car kept running with the AFM unplugged? Lowell thought possibly the injector that were stuck one were being siphoned allowing the engine to keep running. |
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| timothy_nd28 |
Sep 16 2021, 09:06 PM
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The airflow meter keeps the fuel pump running after the key is released from the start position. Inside the airflow meter is a set of contacts that electrically closes when the flap is deflected, which turns on part of the dual relay, which in turn, supplies power to the fuel pump.
Unplugging the connector to the airflow meter would keep part of the dual relay from turning on, thus no fuel pump action. I can see the engine running with the connector off, but only for a short time as the fuel pressure would quickly decrease. There is momentary power from the ignition switch start position going to the fuel pump, but is lost when the key returns to its run position. So, why is the engine running with the air flow meter unplugged? Was the fuel pump wired to bypass the dual relay? It would be interesting to see a fuel pressure gauge connected to monitor the pressures while starting the car, and seeing what the pressure does as the key is released to the run position as the engine runs and the AFM connector off. If I was working on the car, I would check the integrity of each fuel injector circuit. Start with removing the + wire on the ignition coil (this keeps you from burning up the points in the distributor while performing this following test). Remove the ECU connector, and with the key to the run position, check for voltage on pins 14,15,32,33 (ECU connector) to battery ground. You should be seeing 12 volts. If you do, that proves that the ignition key is turning on the dual relay, the dual relay is passing voltage to the resistor pack and that fuel injector coil has continuity. |
rick 918-S 1.8 Questions for the masses Sep 13 2021, 03:44 PM
wonkipop i know that the engine will run on the cold start ... Sep 13 2021, 04:09 PM
rick 918-S That is a thought. Possibly install a noid light w... Sep 13 2021, 04:53 PM
ndfrigi
That is a thought. Possibly install a noid light ... Sep 13 2021, 05:04 PM

wonkipop
That is a thought. Possibly install a noid light... Sep 13 2021, 05:13 PM
ndfrigi deleted. not sure why double post. Sep 13 2021, 05:04 PM
jim_hoyland @timothy_nd28
Perhaps he will chime in. He’s po... Sep 13 2021, 05:02 PM
SteveL On the new injectors - did he order the SMP inject... Sep 13 2021, 06:18 PM
JeffBowlsby
On the new injectors - did he order the SMP injec... Sep 13 2021, 06:34 PM
SteveL
On the new injectors - did he order the SMP inje... Sep 13 2021, 06:37 PM
rick 918-S
[quote name='JeffBowlsby' post='2945204' date='Se... Sep 14 2021, 06:17 AM
ClayPerrine Rick,
If the injectors were stuck open, that woul... Sep 14 2021, 06:46 AM
Dave_Darling I remember an instance a number of years ago where... Sep 14 2021, 06:35 PM
wonkipop
I remember an instance a number of years ago wher... Sep 15 2021, 02:49 AM
rick 918-S Thanks DD! Good recall. Kind of part of what s... Sep 15 2021, 06:05 AM![]() ![]() |
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