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> MPS rebuild, mission accomplished
emerygt350
post Oct 27 2021, 12:07 PM
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I just used Chris Foley's excellent rebuild kit on my leaky MPS. After removing the spider webs and varnish it all went together nicely. Chris gave me some great tips on getting an initial set. I think it is there but I don't have any experience with how a well tuned djet 2.0 914 should run. I suspect there is probably 150k or so on this engine although it could be lower, I doubt higher unless it was cared for very very well. Impossible to know with the dead odometer. Compression is great on all cylinders with no variability.

I took a little video of a drive, start up, corners, and two pulls to 60 (of various quality). After the first 40 seconds I opened my sliding rear window so you can hear the engine sounds better.

https://youtu.be/Fi4vFCWhlCw
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post Oct 28 2021, 05:48 AM
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PB Anders did a great job of characterizing the d-jet system for us but the detailed MPS information tends to intimidate people rather than empower them.
The MPS is a simple mechanical device attached to a robust electronic sensor. Only the mechanical portion is serviceable so I ignore the electronic portion as soon as I know it's operational. I skip the bench tune and go straight to the operational tune.
I've come across some simple "seat of the pants" techniques that work well and don't require in-depth knowledge or specialized electronic instruments. The only requirement is that all the components are functioning properly. So far I haven't managed to organize my techniques into a set of tuning notes but it's only a matter of time.
For modified engines I always recommend an O2 sensor just after the collector, especially to be sure the engine doesn't go lean at WOT but I don't think it's essential on a stock engine.
I don't think spark plug appearance is a very reliable indicator of mixture except at the extremes.
A dyno run can verify WOT mixture is safe but the tailpipe sniffers used at most dyno shops aren't accurate for idle tuning. The exhaust gases get contaminated with backwash at very low flow rates.
Hot start issues are a good indicator of a lean tune. Properly tuned d-jet starts quickly, hot or cold. Imo most people chasing "vapor lock" issues with their stock injected engines are merely suffering with a lean mixture. I use this knowledge as a tuning tool: Take a drive to get the engine good and hot and then park it for 10 minutes. If it starts right up, the MPS adjustment is pretty good. However if you think it might be a little rich, screw in the small center screw by an eighth turn and try again, starting with a cold engine.

One very important thing to keep in mind though: the MPS should never be adjusted to compensate for other issues. Reliable tuning with the MPS can only be done on a properly functioning system.
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emerygt350   MPS rebuild   Oct 27 2021, 12:07 PM
emerygt350   As they would say in Minnesota, uffda, that's ...   Oct 27 2021, 01:58 PM
JeffBowlsby   ...Turned the inner screw a full rotation to the ...   Oct 28 2021, 07:16 AM
rjames   ...Turned the inner screw a full rotation to the...   Oct 28 2021, 01:30 PM
Quinn Moore   I just used Chris Foley's excellent rebuild k...   Oct 27 2021, 03:02 PM
emerygt350   Yes, I got the tuning kit, and well worth it. Chr...   Oct 27 2021, 03:25 PM
BeatNavy   The tuning kit does not come with instructions on ...   Oct 27 2021, 03:29 PM
emerygt350   I have a good one but I just don't want to dri...   Oct 27 2021, 03:42 PM
ChrisFoley   PB Anders did a great job of characterizing the d-...   Oct 28 2021, 05:48 AM
jrmdir   OP, I hope this doesn't amount to hijacking yo...   Oct 28 2021, 07:49 AM
emerygt350   I had the exact same inductance readings as well. ...   Oct 28 2021, 08:21 AM
ChrisFoley   Idle is a bit too high even with the idle screw ...   Oct 28 2021, 10:25 AM
jrmdir   Yes, that terminology and process is exactly what ...   Oct 28 2021, 08:48 AM
rjames   Maybe there's a reason why pbanders specifie...   Oct 28 2021, 01:37 PM
adolimpio   You really need an O2 meter to get it right, but i...   Oct 28 2021, 02:37 PM
emerygt350   I am almost there... still a little lean on the p...   Oct 28 2021, 02:56 PM
BeatNavy   I was chasing my tail on inductance readings with ...   Oct 28 2021, 03:17 PM
emerygt350   Yeah, as soon as I get it in a good spot I am goin...   Oct 29 2021, 06:50 AM
ChrisFoley   As another point of reference: I just unscrewed an...   Oct 29 2021, 09:05 AM
emerygt350   Arggh... No change on the plug. I am going to dou...   Oct 29 2021, 10:03 AM
emerygt350   Brought the fuel pressure up from 28.5ish to 32psi...   Oct 29 2021, 02:07 PM
emerygt350   Just an update on this. No matter how I fiddled w...   Nov 7 2021, 11:02 AM
emerygt350   I thought I would close this thread up with my res...   Dec 5 2021, 01:35 PM
BeatNavy   Obviously these values look nothing like what pba...   Dec 5 2021, 02:15 PM
emerygt350   Obviously these values look nothing like what pb...   Dec 5 2021, 03:48 PM
JeffBowlsby   I am sure thats differneces with the meter. Be in...   Dec 5 2021, 03:22 PM
adolimpio   First, Ander's reference in is inches of mercu...   Dec 5 2021, 09:58 PM
BeatNavy   First, Ander's reference in is inches of merc...   Dec 6 2021, 06:30 AM
emerygt350   Sorry, I put mm but meant inches. I will fix that...   Dec 6 2021, 05:38 AM
emerygt350   Would be awesome to have a way to check your lcr. ...   Dec 6 2021, 05:42 AM
adolimpio   Would be awesome to have a way to check your lcr....   Dec 6 2021, 06:26 AM
JeffBowlsby   We honestly don't know if Ander's result...   Dec 6 2021, 10:50 AM
emerygt350   Just took it for a little spin with my Dakota digi...   Dec 9 2021, 03:30 PM
914rrr   Thanks to all for the great write-up! I...   Jan 10 2024, 02:58 PM
JeffBowlsby   Any tips for de-potting the adjustment screws? ...   Jan 10 2024, 05:27 PM
JamesM   Any tips for de-potting the adjustment screws? ...   Jan 11 2024, 01:55 AM
emerygt350   The rivets are easy. Getting the plug out is the ...   Jan 10 2024, 03:07 PM
914rrr   Speaking of MPS's, here's a great 3D rende...   Jan 10 2024, 03:10 PM
rjames   Speaking of MPS's, here's a great 3D rend...   Jan 10 2024, 06:59 PM
914rrr   Speaking of MPS's, here's a great 3D ren...   Jan 12 2024, 08:02 AM
emerygt350   That's awesome.   Jan 10 2024, 03:25 PM
emerygt350   I don't know how I feel about that.... The ou...   Jan 10 2024, 07:27 PM
rjames   I don't know how I feel about that.... The o...   Jan 11 2024, 10:31 AM
rjames   @914rrr Do you know how much he's charging?   Jan 12 2024, 12:11 PM
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