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Brian Fuerbach
post Jan 20 2022, 02:57 PM
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When driving large sweepers like freeway on ramps at high speed I experience what I can only describe as front end scrubbing. Not understeer, more like the front is just not planted and tracking. Things get better with a full tank of fuel. Is that just the nature of the 914, full tank factored into weight bias, or can the suspension be tuned to emulate the weight.

Here is what Im working with;
-19mm adjustable sway-bar set about 1” back from full soft.
-Koni yellow adjustable shocks
-Stock front torsions
-Rear springs are aftermarket (reddish orange color) but I do not know the poundage.

Any input would be appreciated.
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Brian Fuerbach
post Jan 22 2022, 09:02 PM
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So I talked with the PO today and he thinks that the rear springs are in the 70 to 80#range. Not sure of the brand though. Would a higher pound spring be added to help balance the the 19mm swaybar? Thinking 100# as long as the ride does not suffer too much.


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post Jan 23 2022, 09:18 AM
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QUOTE(Brian Fuerbach @ Jan 22 2022, 10:02 PM) *

So I talked with the PO today and he thinks that the rear springs are in the 70 to 80#range.


Not likely. 70 or 80lb/in would be very light springs.

OEM springs are claimed to be around 100 lb/in. Without going into a spring dissertation, there is way more to a spring than simple rate but (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) that is the way the aftermarket handles spring marketing.


Here are the OEM spring parameters:

Wire diameter 9.6mm
Number of coils 11.5
Effective coils 10.

Visually those springs on your car look like they have thicker wire diameter than stock springs. Really the only way to know would be to put them in a spring tester that that compresses a given distance them while simultaneously measuring the load force changed.

I just purchased a set of 100 lb/in springs from 914Rubber. I'll post a photo later today for visual comparison
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Brian Fuerbach   Handling issues - need adjustment advice   Jan 20 2022, 02:57 PM
brant   Does the rear come around or just a front push? An...   Jan 20 2022, 03:29 PM
Brian Fuerbach   Does the rear come around or just a front push? A...   Jan 20 2022, 05:08 PM
Root_Werks   Somethings not right, a 914 shouldn't push or ...   Jan 20 2022, 03:34 PM
Van B   Are your top mounts good? If so, increase front da...   Jan 20 2022, 03:39 PM
Brian Fuerbach   Are your top mounts good? If so, increase front d...   Jan 20 2022, 05:14 PM
Freezin 914   Is there ride height difference between front and ...   Jan 20 2022, 03:42 PM
Brian Fuerbach   Is there ride height difference between front and...   Jan 20 2022, 05:15 PM
Superhawk996   When driving large sweepers like freeway on ramps...   Jan 20 2022, 03:47 PM
914_teener   When driving large sweepers like freeway on ramp...   Jan 20 2022, 03:57 PM
Superhawk996   Stock bar is more than enough. Think also it is ...   Jan 20 2022, 05:01 PM
Brian Fuerbach   Stock bar is more than enough. Think also it is...   Jan 20 2022, 05:30 PM
Brian Fuerbach   [quote name='Superhawk996' post='2976140' date='J...   Jan 20 2022, 05:26 PM
Brian Fuerbach   When driving large sweepers like freeway on ramp...   Jan 20 2022, 05:24 PM
Superhawk996   I used to drive this on the street, talk about ov...   Jan 20 2022, 05:53 PM
Brian Fuerbach   I used to drive this on the street, talk about o...   Jan 20 2022, 08:22 PM
brant   Take a picture of the front sway adjustment ie: ...   Jan 20 2022, 05:12 PM
roblav1   Soften the end that's not working. FARB is pr...   Jan 20 2022, 10:00 PM
Superhawk996   Soften the end that's not working. FARB is p...   Jan 21 2022, 06:37 AM
Brian Fuerbach   Soften the end that's not working. FARB is ...   Jan 21 2022, 10:44 AM
Superhawk996   I have often read here on the forum that a rear ...   Jan 21 2022, 11:33 AM
yeahmag   I'm in Pasadena and do some suspension tuning ...   Jan 20 2022, 11:18 PM
Brian Fuerbach   I'm in Pasadena and do some suspension tuning...   Jan 21 2022, 10:25 AM
gereed75   Softening the front roll bar won't hurt but a ...   Jan 21 2022, 10:53 AM
Brian Fuerbach   Softening the front roll bar won't hurt but a...   Jan 21 2022, 01:35 PM
rhodyguy   IIRC the Koni instructions stated neither full sof...   Jan 21 2022, 11:30 AM
dr914@autoatlanta.com   you cannot put a front sway bar on a 914 without a...   Jan 21 2022, 03:33 PM
Brian Fuerbach   you cannot put a front sway bar on a 914 without ...   Jan 21 2022, 05:01 PM
JamesM   you cannot put a front sway bar on a 914 without ...   Jan 21 2022, 06:53 PM
Brian Fuerbach   you cannot put a front sway bar on a 914 without...   Jan 21 2022, 07:34 PM
Brian Fuerbach   So I talked with the PO today and he thinks that t...   Jan 22 2022, 09:02 PM
Superhawk996   So I talked with the PO today and he thinks that ...   Jan 23 2022, 09:18 AM
Shivers   Well, looks like it is still a hot topic. Years ag...   Jan 23 2022, 06:49 AM
slivel   Suspension dynamics were interesting to me as a cl...   Jan 23 2022, 11:27 AM
Superhawk996   When you move away from the factory equipment, yo...   Jan 23 2022, 12:55 PM
Shivers   Suspension dynamics were interesting to me as a c...   Jan 23 2022, 01:57 PM
Superhawk996   Here's the photo of 914Rubber 100 lb/in spring...   Jan 24 2022, 07:42 AM
Brian Fuerbach   Here's the photo of 914Rubber 100 lb/in sprin...   Jan 24 2022, 11:11 AM
Superhawk996   I found the attached chart that shows the stock s...   Jan 24 2022, 12:52 PM
Brian Fuerbach   I found the attached chart that shows the stock ...   Jan 24 2022, 01:08 PM
slivel   I found the attached chart that shows the stock ...   Jan 24 2022, 04:05 PM
Brian Fuerbach   [quote name='Superhawk996' post='2977054' date='J...   Jan 24 2022, 06:15 PM
slivel   Here is another spreadsheet just in case anyone is...   Jan 24 2022, 04:12 PM
Shivers   Thank you   Jan 24 2022, 04:48 PM
Superhawk996   So I did a quick rationality check tonight using t...   Jan 24 2022, 06:40 PM
Brian Fuerbach   So I did a quick rationality check tonight using ...   Jan 24 2022, 07:56 PM
Superhawk996   So if the 914rubber springs are 9.6mm wire and 9...   Jan 24 2022, 08:30 PM
mepstein   I always heard stock was 60-70 and 100 was an upgr...   Jan 24 2022, 07:05 PM
slivel   This thread may have played out but I just love to...   Jan 25 2022, 10:58 AM


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