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> Testing relay boards...., Can you bench test a 914 relay board....???
second wind
post Feb 24 2022, 02:05 AM
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Hello out there....my car has been dying after getting a good warm up but starts the next morning. The tell tale symptom is that the fuel pump does not run when the stall occurs and even after hours of cooling off it still does not start...but it does in the morning....???
So talk on the street is the relay board is too old to work properly.....the description of 914 LTD's improved and rebuilt relay boards matches the symptoms of my car perfectly so as soon as I scrap up the money I will buy one.....meanwhile I have two spare relay boards and one looks really good. Is there a way to bench test the relay board before I swap the boards ?? These cars sure keep you on your toes and a relay board with fresh soldered connections sure sounds appealing so Brad is holding one for me. So back to the swap out....I hate to go to the effort just to install another faulty board. Look forward and appreciate any and all comments and help....thank you very much!!!!
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post Feb 26 2022, 05:53 PM
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OK -- so now about the S10.

Sounds an awful like you may have a pretty large short somewhere in the S10.

1) A short would draw down your battery to some level lower than 12v and of course will drain the battery over time if left connected.

2) A short in the S10 COULD have been what collapsed your 914 battery (assuming it was good as you've assumed) to the point that it could barely light the S10 dash lights but yet the S10 could be jump started with a larger current source (the other car's alternator).


By definition a complete zero ohm short circuit will measure 0 volts if you measure the voltage drop across the short circuit.

WARNING - DON'T TRY THIS AT HOME KIDS!

If we were to take a good heavy duty copper cable about 2AWG and directly short the 12v + terminal to the 12v negative terminal while measuring the voltage of the battery with our DMM, it would read 0 volts. There will be a (IMG:style_emoticons/default/stromberg.gif) ton of current flowing but the voltage measured across the + and - terminals will be 0v (assuming resistance of the cable is ZERO ohms). The cable won't be absolutely Zero ohms but it will be darn close.

Think about that for a moment and let it settle in.

A short like that - in its most extreme case can pull a 12v battery very close to 0 volts. Lesser shorts can pull it to 11v, 10v, 9v . . . . all depends on the particulars of the short.

I've had to demonstrate this to people (wearing protective gear) because folks refuse to believe it.
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second wind   Testing relay boards....   Feb 24 2022, 02:05 AM
914Sixer   Yes you can test the board with a multi meter. I ...   Feb 24 2022, 07:12 AM
Superhawk996   :agree: with a couple modifications: There is no...   Feb 24 2022, 07:46 AM
second wind   :agree: with a couple modifications: There is n...   Feb 24 2022, 11:42 AM
Superhawk996   Thank you Superhawk....I did some relay swappin...   Feb 24 2022, 12:19 PM
raynekat   :agree: with a couple modifications: There is n...   Feb 24 2022, 09:10 PM
lesorubcheek   Tracking down intermittent electrical problems ain...   Feb 24 2022, 12:45 PM
Superhawk996   Here you go un-potted board. This is posted as mir...   Feb 24 2022, 03:31 PM
Puebloswatcop   :agree: All of the above. Using a dDMM is not roc...   Feb 24 2022, 04:00 PM
Bartlett 914   A relay board has no electronics. It is a buss bar...   Feb 24 2022, 04:53 PM
johnhora   Check the wire harness at the fuel pump.... I have...   Feb 24 2022, 05:08 PM
JeffBowlsby   The word is 'swaged', not swagged. But I ...   Feb 24 2022, 06:34 PM
Superhawk996   The word is 'swaged', not swagged. But I...   Feb 24 2022, 08:43 PM
930cabman   I assume the riveted/buss bar connection fails fro...   Feb 24 2022, 06:46 PM
volksaddict   I appreciate this info! I have. a fuel pump po...   Feb 24 2022, 09:12 PM
second wind   I am so appreciative you guys!!!!...   Feb 24 2022, 11:54 PM
second wind   I am so appreciative you guys!!!...   Feb 26 2022, 12:54 AM
dirk2056   :agree: almost 100% of the electrical problems I f...   Feb 26 2022, 07:22 AM
Superhawk996   I am so appreciative you guys!!!...   Feb 26 2022, 08:33 AM
iankarr   :agree: It’s important to collect hard data on...   Feb 26 2022, 09:14 AM
Superhawk996   :rotfl: at Ian's perfect description of what h...   Feb 26 2022, 12:56 PM
Superhawk996   Let's go back one more step, to the basics. ...   Feb 26 2022, 01:06 PM
dr914@autoatlanta.com   Here is an old guy explaining the function https:...   Feb 26 2022, 01:16 PM
second wind   Here is an old guy explaining the function https...   Feb 26 2022, 04:54 PM
Superhawk996   At the end I thought you were going to show us h...   Feb 26 2022, 05:19 PM
second wind   Well guys...thank you again very much and I have a...   Feb 26 2022, 04:31 PM
Superhawk996   Well guys...thank you again very much and I have ...   Feb 26 2022, 05:43 PM
Superhawk996   OK -- so now about the S10. Sounds an awful like...   Feb 26 2022, 05:53 PM


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