Home  |  Forums  |  914 Info  |  Blogs
 
914World.com - The fastest growing online 914 community!
 
Porsche, and the Porsche crest are registered trademarks of Dr. Ing. h.c. F. Porsche AG. This site is not affiliated with Porsche in any way.
Its only purpose is to provide an online forum for car enthusiasts. All other trademarks are property of their respective owners.
 

Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register )

> Simple Anti-Theft Switch, Wiring suggestions
FlatSix
post Mar 14 2022, 09:42 AM
Post #1


English Member
**

Group: Members
Posts: 191
Joined: 14-January 03
From: Poole, England
Member No.: 144



So I want to install a switch hidden under the dash to stop the engine starting.
Having done a search, the black/purple wire going to the tachometer seemed a likely candidate to break the circuit. However, when I disconnected it from the tach, the car would still start!
Which wire should I use?
The engine is a 1973 2.0 four cylinder with fuel injection.
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
 
Reply to this topicStart new topic
Replies
FlatSix
post Mar 16 2022, 08:53 AM
Post #2


English Member
**

Group: Members
Posts: 191
Joined: 14-January 03
From: Poole, England
Member No.: 144



Some really interesting suggestions here, thank you all.

Being in the UK, the manual gearbox is not a problem and even the selector pattern is easily overcome. The car will pull away in 2nd gear and reverse can only be in one of four places! LHD is problematic when overtaking but not an anti-theft deterrent.

I'm liking the ideas of either cutting power to the fuel pump or using the interlock device. I also like the idea of easily unplugging any changes I make and returning it back to stock should I need to for troubleshooting etc.

I apologise for being somewhat economical with the truth earlier. Whilst the engine is from '73 the car is actually a Californian spec '76. Therefore there is a kinda interlock system under the passenger seat. This is much simplified for '76 as there are no pressure plates in the seats. The car runs fine without the relay in place. All the relay seems to do is illuminate the fasten seat belt sign for a few seconds. I believe the yellow wires are bypassed at the factory. I don't want to put a switch in line with the yellow wires as they look to be taking a fair bit of current. I'm not sure how I can take advantage of this with a switch under the dashboard though.

Attached Image
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
ClayPerrine
post Mar 16 2022, 12:03 PM
Post #3


Life's been good to me so far.....
***************

Group: Admin
Posts: 15,540
Joined: 11-September 03
From: Hurst, TX.
Member No.: 1,143
Region Association: NineFourteenerVille



QUOTE(FlatSix @ Mar 16 2022, 09:53 AM) *

Some really interesting suggestions here, thank you all.

Being in the UK, the manual gearbox is not a problem and even the selector pattern is easily overcome. The car will pull away in 2nd gear and reverse can only be in one of four places! LHD is problematic when overtaking but not an anti-theft deterrent.

I'm liking the ideas of either cutting power to the fuel pump or using the interlock device. I also like the idea of easily unplugging any changes I make and returning it back to stock should I need to for troubleshooting etc.

I apologise for being somewhat economical with the truth earlier. Whilst the engine is from '73 the car is actually a Californian spec '76. Therefore there is a kinda interlock system under the passenger seat. This is much simplified for '76 as there are no pressure plates in the seats. The car runs fine without the relay in place. All the relay seems to do is illuminate the fasten seat belt sign for a few seconds. I believe the yellow wires are bypassed at the factory. I don't want to put a switch in line with the yellow wires as they look to be taking a fair bit of current. I'm not sure how I can take advantage of this with a switch under the dashboard though.

Attached Image



The yellow wires are not for the fuel pump. They connect the ignition switch to the starter to make the engine crank. If you interrupt that, the engine won't crank over, but the car could still be push started.

I once put an anti-theft switch in a 280Z for a customer. I put a button under the carpet between the clutch and brake pedals. You had to put it in neutral, and the step on the right spot on the carpet to get the engine to crank. The customer quickly got used to it.

For a 914-4, you can ground the tach wire on the back of the tachometer. Or kill the fuel pump, or something similar.

There are also GPS Trackers. https://www.amazon.com/GPS-Trackers/b?node=617650011 With one of these, just let them steal the car. then go get it back when it stops moving. Or notify the cops and let them get it back for you.


User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post

Posts in this topic
FlatSix   Simple Anti-Theft Switch   Mar 14 2022, 09:42 AM
Shivers   RE: Simple Anti-Theft Switch   Mar 14 2022, 09:55 AM
GregAmy   However, when I disconnected it from the tach, the...   Mar 14 2022, 10:25 AM
jvmarino   An easy anti-theft method is to pull the coil wire...   Mar 14 2022, 10:31 AM
FlatSix   Thanks. I'm really looking for a solution that...   Mar 14 2022, 10:41 AM
GregAmy   What are the implications of grounding the black/...   Mar 14 2022, 10:51 AM
Superhawk996   What are the implications of grounding the black...   Mar 14 2022, 12:54 PM
mepstein   Years ago I had my shop wire a cut off switch into...   Mar 14 2022, 10:45 AM
914e   In the US just being a manual transmission is anti...   Mar 14 2022, 10:56 AM
wonkipop   In the US just being a manual transmission is ant...   Mar 15 2022, 07:16 PM
ClayPerrine   If the car is injected, then just put in a switch ...   Mar 14 2022, 11:34 AM
porschetub   If the car is injected, then just put in a switch...   Mar 15 2022, 01:41 PM
vitamin914   I have a switch for the fuel pump and auxiliary oi...   Mar 14 2022, 12:19 PM
Chris914n6   Problem is all the important wires are in the engi...   Mar 14 2022, 12:25 PM
jhynesrockmtn   When I bought my 1970 the yellow switch was a bit ...   Mar 15 2022, 08:43 AM
jrmdir   Hi: There are some good ideas here and perhaps th...   Mar 15 2022, 10:20 AM
GregAmy   I'm a seriously KISS guy. And one issue with y...   Mar 15 2022, 10:31 AM
Superhawk996   My recommendation is to design something that f...   Mar 15 2022, 10:54 AM
Superhawk996   You may want to rethink that relay plan. The ign...   Mar 15 2022, 10:50 AM
mmichalik   I know you wanted a simple solution but, the Bluet...   Mar 15 2022, 10:56 AM
roblav1   I did the fuel pump switch thing on mine... about...   Mar 15 2022, 11:52 AM
emerygt350   I simply bought a chalon. Problem solved.   Mar 15 2022, 12:27 PM
Superhawk996   I simply bought a chalon. Problem solved. :lo...   Mar 15 2022, 06:22 PM
Maltese Falcon   I simply bought a chalon. Problem solved. Don...   Mar 15 2022, 09:27 PM
wonkipop   I simply bought a chalon. Problem solved. Don...   Mar 16 2022, 03:09 AM
GregAmy   I know the OP doesn't want to pop open the lid...   Mar 15 2022, 01:58 PM
vitamin914   The OP is from Poole, England. Yes, here (North A...   Mar 15 2022, 06:16 PM
GeorgeKopf   I wonder if there is something like this for older...   Mar 15 2022, 07:03 PM
Unobtanium-inc   Best anti-theft I ever saw was my brother hooked u...   Mar 15 2022, 07:05 PM
windforfun   Move to a safer neighborhood & park your car i...   Mar 15 2022, 07:20 PM
r_towle   I am more worried about totally forgetting I did a...   Mar 15 2022, 07:24 PM
bkrantz   Get one of these?   Mar 15 2022, 09:18 PM
VegasRacer   Not really stealth, but it's what I have. :ph...   Mar 15 2022, 11:05 PM
emerygt350   Truthfully, the chalon only protects me from uppit...   Mar 16 2022, 05:11 AM
emerygt350   Examples You can probably find one that has a ...   Mar 16 2022, 05:14 AM
mate914   Go get one of those 123Dizzy's with bluetooth,...   Mar 16 2022, 06:27 AM
emerygt350   The bluetooth looks good but I have had way too ma...   Mar 16 2022, 07:36 AM
barefoot   I added an under the dash cut-off switch for the f...   Mar 16 2022, 08:37 AM
FlatSix   Some really interesting suggestions here, thank yo...   Mar 16 2022, 08:53 AM
ClayPerrine   Some really interesting suggestions here, thank y...   Mar 16 2022, 12:03 PM
willieg   I use a battery cutoff switch with a removable han...   Mar 16 2022, 12:48 PM


Reply to this topicStart new topic
1 User(s) are reading this topic (1 Guests and 0 Anonymous Users)
0 Members:

 



- Lo-Fi Version Time is now: 16th June 2024 - 11:01 AM