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> Cooling flap system on a '74 2.0 stuck open
Lockwodo
post Apr 29 2022, 06:38 PM
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Hi all. As I work through the maintenance issues on the '74 2.0 I bought recently, I noticed that the cooling flaps are wide open (as they would be when engine is warmed up) all the time. Since this is the default position when a thermostat fails, I'll be checking the thermostat and wire/pulley mechanism. But just wondering what priority resolving this should have? It's not like I don't have plenty of other things to take care of (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

The car starts from cold, idles and runs well. I live in an area where it's unlikely I'll be starting and driving the car in temperatures below 60 degrees F. What do you think?
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post Apr 30 2022, 09:07 AM
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All great advice! Here's a related question: The temp gauge on my car generally registers close to the bottom end of the scale and I can imagine these gauges can be funky. I'd like to use an infrared temp gun to measure actual engine temperature. Which points on the engine would be good to "shoot" and what readings would be considered normal operating range?
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post Apr 30 2022, 09:23 AM
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QUOTE(Lockwodo @ Apr 30 2022, 11:07 AM) *

All great advice! Here's a related question: The temp gauge on my car generally registers close to the bottom end of the scale and I can imagine these gauges can be funky. I'd like to use an infrared temp gun to measure actual engine temperature. Which points on the engine would be good to "shoot" and what readings would be considered normal operating range?



There are several things going on here.

Fix the flaps - get new thermostat if necessary. I'm going to recommend the opposite of previous advice. Fix the flaps 1st -- engines aren't cheap.

The flaps provide proper warm up (i.e. quickly) and drive condensation moisture out of the oil. Air cooled engines don't like to run cold. Personally I had an engine come with my car as purchased that was wrecked by rust and condensation caused by running without flaps for who knows how long. There are other reasons related to engine running clearances too.

With respect to your temp gauge. That measures oil sump temperature -- the fact that it is running on the low end of the gauge is yet another indication that your engine oil is not running at proper temperature and may not be warming properly due to the flaps issue.

Nice graphic someone crated:
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Note that when flaps are failed open you're constantly running cooling air across the oil cooler.
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Lockwodo   Cooling flap system on a '74 2.0 stuck open   Apr 29 2022, 06:38 PM
emerygt350   Save it for last. Although hot oil will increase ...   Apr 29 2022, 06:55 PM
wonkipop   Hi all. As I work through the maintenance issues...   Apr 29 2022, 07:50 PM
Lockwodo   [quote name='Lockwodo' post='2998576' date='Apr 2...   Apr 29 2022, 08:46 PM
wonkipop   [quote name='wonkipop' post='2998604' date='Apr 2...   Apr 29 2022, 10:25 PM
wonkipop   here is a link to the discussion. the mexican one...   Apr 29 2022, 10:40 PM
emerygt350   I pulled mine from an old bus motor a friend has l...   Apr 30 2022, 05:32 AM
914Sixer   Here you go. Brand new made in the USA. Guy also...   Apr 30 2022, 05:54 AM
wonkipop   Here you go. Brand new made in the USA. Guy als...   Apr 30 2022, 07:23 AM
emerygt350   Here you go. Brand new made in the USA. Guy al...   Apr 30 2022, 08:31 AM
pbanders   Here you go. Brand new made in the USA. Guy als...   Apr 30 2022, 03:46 PM
rhodyguy   $129 a pop at Awesome Powder Coating for the ...   Apr 30 2022, 07:15 AM
Lockwodo   All great advice! Here's a related questi...   Apr 30 2022, 09:07 AM
Superhawk996   All great advice! Here's a related quest...   Apr 30 2022, 09:23 AM
bkrantz   All great advice! Here's a related quest...   Apr 30 2022, 08:13 PM
Lockwodo   All great advice! Here's a related ques...   Apr 30 2022, 09:53 PM
Superhawk996   With respect to the temperature gauge, here are th...   Apr 30 2022, 09:31 AM
Lockwodo   With respect to the temperature gauge, here are t...   May 23 2022, 08:19 PM
Superhawk996   [. . . does it look like the gauge needle is reg...   May 24 2022, 06:29 AM
Lockwodo   [quote name='Lockwodo' post='3003765' date='May 2...   May 24 2022, 06:52 AM
emerygt350   I am a believer in hot oil, but knowing what's...   Apr 30 2022, 03:25 PM
Lockwodo   I get that the engine temp needs to be maintained ...   Apr 30 2022, 05:13 PM
emerygt350   Kind of. Idle in djet is a little complicated. Y...   Apr 30 2022, 06:23 PM
rhodyguy   When you remove the oil temp sensor the oil will p...   May 1 2022, 11:27 AM
GregAmy   If it helps for confidence in the gauge...I am run...   May 24 2022, 06:56 AM
Lockwodo   If it helps for confidence in the gauge...I am ru...   May 24 2022, 09:15 AM


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