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914/4: 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 914/6: 70 71 72
| wonkipop |
Dec 25 2021, 05:12 PM
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i'll be dropping the information we have gathered over Dec 2021 in with a set of posts.
the material was prompted by mr b ( @JeffBowlsby ) who observed that for the 74 MY there was an EC-A and an EC-B engine. mr b's thought was that the EC-A was a 49 states car and and EC-B was a californian car for emissions. mr b's view was rational and reasoned. 73 EA engines are 49 states. 73 EB engines are california. 75 engines are documented in factory literature as EC-a (49 states) and EC-b (california). the logic should follow? BUT as per the mystery of the 914, the truth about 74 1.8s turns out stranger than fiction (or common sense?). the material is not necessary to running a 1.8 or having fun with a 14. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) its for historical purposes and as information to 74 1.8 owners to assist with restoration if they want it. |
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| Van B |
May 25 2022, 09:06 AM
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@wonkipop
My car was not a frunk can. It is a rear firewall car with the OE stud and everything. I can also see, thanks to the original tank, that at no point was an evap can ever mounted there. |
| wonkipop |
May 25 2022, 05:02 PM
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@wonkipop My car was not a frunk can. It is a rear firewall car with the OE stud and everything. I can also see, thanks to the original tank, that at no point was an evap can ever mounted there. i know @Van B . two possibilities. given when your car was made (dec 73). 1. cars with early engine bay cans could have got frunk can emission booklets until printed stocks of emission booklets were used up or if the emissions warranties were not withdrawn from stocks it got included with the car, or stocks of Nov edition had not arrived from printers for inclusion. 2. PO of your car replaced a missing emissions warranty with a new one and its not the one that came with the car. StarBear has done that for instance - his emissions warranty did not come with the car. its probably #1. given that you have a december 73 made car. and we know there is a november edition warranty that replaced or superseded oct version. by rights your car should have come with a later nov edition warranty? common sense says that. we don't even really know where and when they put the warranties in the car. did they do it at the factory and slip it in the glove box? did they do it at the VW North America warehouses after the cars got to the USA? did they do it at the dealer and they just had boxes of warranties to fill out and drop into the cars? my guess would be that the warranties get included with the car close to the final point of sale. if nothing else for security. its not hard to imagine a dealer with an out of date box of warranties not keeping up with things and you get these kinds of overlaps. esp so where there is a quick sequence of revising editions. that would be my explanation. what we do know is there was an Oct edition, thanks to the one you have. and we know that there is a month worth of frunk can 1.8s that ends Nov 20 1973. and after that there is a Nov edition and it goes to the end of 74MY and after Nov 20 there is an engine bay can and it goes to the end of 74MY. and the two editions one month after the other track the change in the system and it accords with the change in components in the cars. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) |
wonkipop 1974 914 1.8 Dec 25 2021, 05:12 PM
wonkipop SURVEY OF MEMBERS WITH 74 1.8s.
INFORMATION FROM R... Dec 25 2021, 05:14 PM
wonkipop DATE - UP DATE OF VAPOR EMISSION CONTROL SYSTEM.
... Dec 25 2021, 05:19 PM
wonkipop EC-A and EC-B engines are most obviously identifie... Dec 25 2021, 05:41 PM
wonkipop emission stickers indicate that both engine versio... Dec 25 2021, 05:47 PM
wonkipop more to come Dec 25 2021, 06:29 PM
RRietman
more to come
If it makes any difference, I shoul... Dec 25 2021, 07:41 PM
wonkipop thanks for that info randy
i revised the schedule ... Dec 25 2021, 08:24 PM
wonkipop EC-A / EC-B THROTTLE BODY AND DISTRIBUTOR WITH VA... Dec 25 2021, 09:06 PM
wonkipop EXCEPTIONAL DATA 1
MYSTERY CAR
mr. b has documen... Dec 25 2021, 09:06 PM
wonkipop EXCEPTIONAL DATA 2
paint stamp engine number EA 3... Dec 25 2021, 09:43 PM
wonkipop EXCEPTIONAL DATA 3
EC-A engined car (california/C... Dec 25 2021, 10:12 PM
wonkipop A HYPOTHETICAL.
PAINT STAMP ENGINE NUMBER.
this ... Dec 25 2021, 10:32 PM
wonkipop POST SCRIPT
A TROUBLED BIRTH FOR L - JET / THE FI... Dec 25 2021, 11:21 PM
wonkipop VAPOR EMISSIONS CONTROL SYSTEM.
(aka the charcoal... Dec 26 2021, 12:38 AM
wonkipop revising comments welcome.
further documented 1.8... Dec 26 2021, 04:02 PM
StarBear Destined to be a classic (though imho it already i... Dec 26 2021, 08:07 PM
wonkipop post script
@StarBear
of course the 1.8 is a... Dec 27 2021, 04:54 PM
Van B Anyone else notice that hellhole rust on the museu... Dec 29 2021, 02:00 PM
wonkipop
Anyone else notice that hellhole rust on the muse... Dec 29 2021, 03:57 PM
Van B Was there any car in the US that got the AN or AT ... Dec 29 2021, 07:26 PM
wonkipop
Was there any car in the US that got the AN or AT... Dec 29 2021, 07:46 PM
Van B Well, really the point is to find high compression... Dec 29 2021, 10:54 PM
wonkipop
Well, really the point is to find high compressio... Dec 30 2021, 05:15 PM
JeffBowlsby AN engine in a factory 1974 914 GT (European-marke... Dec 31 2021, 10:25 AM
wonkipop ^
wow.
original motor? Dec 31 2021, 07:04 PM
wonkipop @[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showu... Jan 25 2022, 06:12 PM
StarBear Yep, I'm convinced. Probably (?) not a single ... Jan 25 2022, 06:39 PM
wonkipop
Yep, I'm convinced. Probably (?) not a single... Jan 25 2022, 07:24 PM
JeffBowlsby Nice detective work. I know of nothing in conflic... Jan 25 2022, 07:15 PM
wonkipop @StarBear
production looks to go like this for 74... Jan 25 2022, 07:51 PM
L-Jet914 What's interesting is when I replaced my ignit... Feb 1 2022, 11:17 PM
wonkipop
What's interesting is when I replaced my igni... Feb 2 2022, 04:12 PM
Van B @[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showu... Feb 20 2022, 11:21 PM
wonkipop
@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?show... Feb 21 2022, 03:39 AM
Van B I wonder what it sold for? And do you know if the ... Feb 21 2022, 10:59 AM
wonkipop
I would say we’re it not for a low budget mecha... Feb 21 2022, 03:41 PM
wonkipop also that yellow car is one more confirmation that... Feb 22 2022, 10:25 AM
Racer What a rather well documented thread.
Question.. ... Feb 22 2022, 02:28 PM
wonkipop
What a rather well documented thread.
Question..... Feb 22 2022, 04:21 PM
Van B @wonkipop
I remember you saying that about the sw... Feb 25 2022, 11:56 AM
wonkipop
[b]@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?s... Feb 25 2022, 08:40 PM
Van B Its got some PoS KYB on the rear and who knows wha... Feb 27 2022, 11:14 PM
wonkipop
Its got some PoS KYB on the rear and who knows wh... Feb 28 2022, 02:15 AM
StarBear Mine has the appearance group, sway bars and the b... Mar 24 2022, 06:53 AM
wonkipop for @Van B
came across this image in obscure part... Mar 27 2022, 01:37 AM
wonkipop VAPOR EMISSION CONTROL SYSTEM
update information.... May 22 2022, 01:03 PM
Van B Well, it may be inductive reasoning, but given the... May 25 2022, 05:45 PM
wonkipop
Well, it may be inductive reasoning, but given th... May 25 2022, 07:20 PM
JeffBowlsby Wonk,
You deserve an award for this charcoal ca... May 26 2022, 08:52 PM
wonkipop
Wonk,
You deserve an award for this charcoal c... May 27 2022, 03:53 AM
wonkipop
Wonk,
You deserve an award for this charcoal c... May 28 2022, 01:34 AM
wonkipop After all that research and thanks to all members ... Jun 5 2022, 01:18 AM
JeffBowlsby Niiiice. I see that architects hand... :drooley:
... Jun 6 2022, 06:50 AM
wonkipop
Niiiice. I see that architects hand... :drooley:... Jun 6 2022, 03:55 PM
StarBear @wonkipop [b]@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2... Jul 10 2022, 07:59 PM
wonkipop great stuff @StarBear
looks like you guys had a... Jul 10 2022, 10:03 PM
StarBear Yep; darn close to pinning it down, I’d say. Gre... Jul 11 2022, 06:22 AM
StarBear @rod911964 Rob - Here's the info we were di... Jul 11 2022, 01:41 PM
wonkipop @StarBear [b]@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2... Jul 12 2022, 06:29 PM
Van B Our cars really were like a beta test for the L-Je... Jul 12 2022, 09:21 PM
StarBear
Our cars really were like a beta test for the L-J... Jul 13 2022, 02:18 PM
StarBear Found another 74 (?) this morning behind a garage.... Jul 13 2022, 02:20 PM
wonkipop came across another plastic expansion tank 74.
clo... Jul 17 2022, 07:04 AM
StarBear @wonkipop BTW, what color is yours, and what ty... Jul 18 2022, 06:52 AM
wonkipop
[b]@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?s... Jul 18 2022, 07:50 AM
wonkipop just been scratching through my files here a bit m... Jul 18 2022, 08:02 AM
StarBear @wonkipop Something special made - for you fro... Jul 18 2022, 10:46 AM
wonkipop
[b]@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?s... Jul 18 2022, 04:48 PM
wonkipop
[b]@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?... Jul 18 2022, 07:35 PM
StarBear
[quote name='StarBear' post='3016011' date='Jul ... Jul 19 2022, 06:54 AM
wonkipop @[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showu... Jul 18 2022, 05:17 PM
Van B @wonkipop how many US spec ‘74 1.8s do you thin... Jul 18 2022, 05:54 PM
wonkipop
@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?show... Jul 18 2022, 06:45 PM
wonkipop
[b]@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?s... Jul 19 2022, 01:32 AM
Van B I don’t know how I missed that label lol! Y... Jul 18 2022, 08:08 PM
wonkipop
I don’t know how I missed that label lol! ... Jul 18 2022, 08:48 PM
wonkipop @Van B + [b]@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/i... Jul 19 2022, 12:12 AM
StarBear @wonkipop As promised, here's the white font... Jul 19 2022, 10:44 AM
wonkipop
[b]@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?s... Jul 19 2022, 03:17 PM
StarBear "L" is for L-Jet, obviously..... Jul 19 2022, 10:44 AM
Van B First off, you two are ridiculous lol...
Second, ... Jul 19 2022, 11:01 AM
StarBear Good move, Van.
My thought is that 1.8s may be th... Jul 19 2022, 01:06 PM
wonkipop
Good move, Van.
My thought is that 1.8s may be t... Jul 19 2022, 03:14 PM
StarBear Great! Works for you so go with it. Can apprec... Jul 19 2022, 07:05 PM
Van B Well, I straight up missed this page...
http://www... Jul 20 2022, 09:57 AM
wonkipop
Well, I straight up missed this page...
http://ww... Jul 20 2022, 04:37 PM
Van B Not really. You said you could figure exactly the ... Jul 20 2022, 05:18 PM
wonkipop
Not really. You said you could figure exactly the... Jul 20 2022, 05:22 PM
wonkipop @davep
i mentioned in pm that i had also seen an... Jul 22 2022, 02:00 AM
StarBear
[b]@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?s... Jul 22 2022, 05:34 AM
wonkipop
[b]@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?... Jul 22 2022, 06:02 AM
wonkipop new data
entered into tables on page 1 of thread.
... Jul 29 2022, 10:25 PM
StarBear @wonkipop I’m planning on redoing a sheet of t... Jul 30 2022, 06:49 AM
wonkipop
[b]@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?s... Jul 30 2022, 07:07 AM
StarBear
[b]@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?... Jul 30 2022, 10:00 AM
wonkipop
[quote name='StarBear' post='3019138' date='Jul ... Jul 30 2022, 07:11 PM
JeffBowlsby I was thinking about the charcoal can air supply a... Aug 5 2022, 06:18 PM![]() ![]() |
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