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| Geezer914 |
Jun 19 2022, 01:44 PM
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Geezer914 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,116 Joined: 18-March 09 From: Salem, NJ Member No.: 10,179 Region Association: North East States
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I am trying to adjust the air fuel ratio on me 2056 Ljet. I read the article that was posted a while back. I adjusted the wiper arm and set the idle at 1100 rpm (Raby 9550 cam) with the idle AFR at 13.2. When I check the high rpm the AFR is at 12.1. If I adjust the high rpm AFR to 13.2, (moving the large wheel 7 teeth CW) the the idle AFR is 16.9 with the mix screw all the way down. If I readjust the wiper arm to 13.2, then the high rpm AFR goes back to 12.2. Can't seem to find a happy medium. I know when you adjust the wiper arm it changes the mixture linear from idle to high rpm. How much more can I adjust the large wheel CW?
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| 914werke |
Jun 29 2022, 04:55 PM
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"I got blisters on me fingers" ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 11,447 Joined: 22-March 03 From: USofA Member No.: 453 Region Association: Pacific Northwest
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I don't ever recommend changing the settings on the internals of the AFM. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Well, perhaps that is useful advice if you are working with a stock (1.8L) motor & the stock induction for which it was tuned in the 1970's (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sunglasses.gif) not to mention the differences in gas formulation from then to now or the likelihood of finding an unmolested AFM for a system that hasent been installed new in a car for over 30 years. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif) But if you've spent a chunk of change on a motor and dont want to run the risk of frying that investment due to less than optimal air fuel ratio (IE overly LEAN) the only way I know to do that is with the use of a wide band 02 meter and judicious adjustments of those elements, fuel pressure, adjusted timing, ect. With a system that is as sensitive to vacuum as L-Jet is, the addition of a non stock camshaft can add to the challenges. In my case Its ALL of that. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif) |
| ClayPerrine |
Jun 30 2022, 04:59 AM
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Life's been good to me so far..... ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 16,526 Joined: 11-September 03 From: Hurst, TX. Member No.: 1,143 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille
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I don't ever recommend changing the settings on the internals of the AFM. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Well, perhaps that is useful advice if you are working with a stock (1.8L) motor & the stock induction for which it was tuned in the 1970's (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sunglasses.gif) not to mention the differences in gas formulation from then to now or the likelihood of finding an unmolested AFM for a system that hasent been installed new in a car for over 30 years. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif) But if you've spent a chunk of change on a motor and dont want to run the risk of frying that investment due to less than optimal air fuel ratio (IE overly LEAN) the only way I know to do that is with the use of a wide band 02 meter and judicious adjustments of those elements, fuel pressure, adjusted timing, ect. With a system that is as sensitive to vacuum as L-Jet is, the addition of a non stock camshaft can add to the challenges. In my case Its ALL of that. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif) Just an FYI.. I had factory training on L-Jet back in the 80s. I understand the system. And I found out the hard way that the engineers at Bosch who designed this know way more about it than I do. The air flow meter is designed to make the mixture richer with more airflow. When you change the spring settings in it, it changes the mixture curve. Rather than f**k with the insides of it, you can do things like increase injector size, or increase the fuel pressure to compensate for more displacement. And the difference between the 1.8 and a 2056 is not enough to cause an overly lean condition. I have been running L-Jet on various 914 engines for 36 years. Never have I had an "overly lean" condition cause damage to the engine. And I have multiple air flow meters that have never been opened. You can change things on your car at a your pleasure. And you can deal with the drivability issues that come with the reduction in spring pressure. I have already been down that road, and I was hoping to save you the trip. Good luck. Clay |
Geezer914 Air fuel ratio Ljet Jun 19 2022, 01:44 PM
emerygt350 Is any of this under load? Jun 19 2022, 05:08 PM
Geezer914 No. The idle is going to be the idle. The only t... Jun 19 2022, 05:31 PM
emerygt350
No. The idle is going to be the idle. The only ... Jun 19 2022, 05:39 PM
Mark Henry Load AFR with iron jugs should be just under 13:1,... Jun 20 2022, 09:26 AM
914werke Sounds like were on a parallel path. Following
Im ... Jun 20 2022, 12:37 PM
Van B Geezer, seems to me you were fine with the values ... Jun 21 2022, 10:02 AM
914werke Hopefully the Geez is making better progress than ... Jun 23 2022, 07:48 PM
Van B Hmmm… AFM screw is 3-4 turns out, correct?
What... Jun 23 2022, 08:51 PM
Geezer914 If your idle is high and no change when you adjust... Jun 24 2022, 04:31 AM
Geezer914 I ended up with 13.1 at 3000 rpm and 16.9 at idle.... Jun 24 2022, 04:34 AM
914werke If your idle is high and no change when you adjus... Jun 24 2022, 09:17 AM
ClayPerrine
If your idle is high and no change when you adju... Jun 24 2022, 02:33 PM
Van B There is no 27 degree mark for the L-Jet. I wonde... Jun 24 2022, 12:21 PM
rhodyguy Something is amiss down wind of the AFM? Vac leak ... Jun 24 2022, 01:01 PM
914werke Thanks for chiming in Clay. @ClayPerrine
Ive ne... Jun 24 2022, 02:51 PM
wonkipop
Thanks for chiming in Clay. [b]@[url=http://www.... Jun 24 2022, 06:25 PM
Van B On last time: Does your fan have the single red pa... Jun 24 2022, 03:28 PM
wonkipop
On last time: Does your fan have the single red p... Jun 24 2022, 05:08 PM
wonkipop from factory manual on timing marks.
(interesting... Jun 24 2022, 05:36 PM
914werke So thanks to all who chimed in.
Sometime you get ... Jun 24 2022, 07:08 PM
wonkipop good stuff.
:beer2:
good looking throttle body.... Jun 24 2022, 07:21 PM
Van B Ah yeah that’ll do it. When you said TB was goo... Jun 24 2022, 07:26 PM
914werke UGH. Im back.
Well I thought I have this dicked b... Jun 28 2022, 03:44 PM
wonkipop i'm probably not much help - i have an entirel... Jun 28 2022, 07:11 PM
ClayPerrine I don't ever recommend changing the settings o... Jun 29 2022, 06:32 AM
Van B
I don't ever recommend changing the settings ... Jun 29 2022, 11:28 PM
Geezer914 Look up Internet Air Cooled Air Flow Meter. There... Jun 29 2022, 07:08 PM
914werke Just an FYI.. I had factory training on L-Jet ba... Jun 30 2022, 12:37 PM
wonkipop
Just an FYI.. I had factory training on L-Jet b... Jun 30 2022, 06:19 PM
ClayPerrine
Just an FYI.. I had factory training on L-Jet b... Jul 1 2022, 05:39 AM
914werke Rich, I apologize if I came across as admonishin... Jul 1 2022, 11:01 AM
ClayPerrine
[quote name='ClayPerrine' post='3012437' date='Ju... Jul 1 2022, 01:36 PM
StarBear
[quote name='ClayPerrine' post='3012437' date='J... Jul 3 2022, 06:48 AM
nihil44 I have been outed by @wonkipop . I have been loit... Jul 4 2022, 06:41 PM
914werke here's what Im working with:
Jul 1 2022, 03:00 PM
wonkipop thats a 75 1.8 AFM.
i believe it pairs with a 75 ... Jul 1 2022, 08:45 PM
ClayPerrine
thats a 75 1.8 AFM.
i believe it pairs with a 75... Jul 2 2022, 06:24 AM
wonkipop part #s / details for the L Jet components on a 91... Jul 1 2022, 09:49 PM
wonkipop @914werke
some one who might be able to help wit... Jul 2 2022, 07:56 PM
ClayPerrine I don't understand why you would have to ... Jul 4 2022, 08:10 PM
nihil44 Clay,
I was just having a play with the Kombi AFM... Jul 4 2022, 08:32 PM
wonkipop thanks for the images @nihil44
great to be able... Jul 4 2022, 08:40 PM
Van B That ‘74 6 pin doesn’t look like either of min... Jul 4 2022, 11:19 PM
nihil44 Apologies to the group for posting photos of what ... Jul 5 2022, 08:37 PM![]() ![]() |
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