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914/4: 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 914/6: 70 71 72
| wonkipop |
Dec 25 2021, 05:12 PM
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914 Guru ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5,171 Joined: 6-May 20 From: north antarctica Member No.: 24,231 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille
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i'll be dropping the information we have gathered over Dec 2021 in with a set of posts.
the material was prompted by mr b ( @JeffBowlsby ) who observed that for the 74 MY there was an EC-A and an EC-B engine. mr b's thought was that the EC-A was a 49 states car and and EC-B was a californian car for emissions. mr b's view was rational and reasoned. 73 EA engines are 49 states. 73 EB engines are california. 75 engines are documented in factory literature as EC-a (49 states) and EC-b (california). the logic should follow? BUT as per the mystery of the 914, the truth about 74 1.8s turns out stranger than fiction (or common sense?). the material is not necessary to running a 1.8 or having fun with a 14. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) its for historical purposes and as information to 74 1.8 owners to assist with restoration if they want it. |
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| StarBear |
Jul 30 2022, 06:49 AM
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@wonkipop I’m planning on redoing a sheet of tune up stickers. Could you remind me which ones had the single vacuum hose sticker (EC-A Caalifornia?) and which the dual hoses (EC-B non California?).
I think I need to make a scorecard sheet to keep these variants straight. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) |
| wonkipop |
Jul 30 2022, 07:07 AM
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914 Guru ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5,171 Joined: 6-May 20 From: north antarctica Member No.: 24,231 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille
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@wonkipop I’m planning on redoing a sheet of tune up stickers. Could you remind me which ones had the single vacuum hose sticker (EC-A Caalifornia?) and which the dual hoses (EC-B non California?). I think I need to make a scorecard sheet to keep these variants straight. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) you got it right above steve. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) it was all a lot simpler 30 years ago living in ignorant bliss. |
| StarBear |
Jul 30 2022, 10:00 AM
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,212 Joined: 2-September 09 From: NJ Member No.: 10,753 Region Association: North East States
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@wonkipop I’m planning on redoing a sheet of tune up stickers. Could you remind me which ones had the single vacuum hose sticker (EC-A Caalifornia?) and which the dual hoses (EC-B non California?). I think I need to make a scorecard sheet to keep these variants straight. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) you got it right above steve. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) it was all a lot simpler 30 years ago living in ignorant bliss. Got it! Will let you and @Van B know when they're done so if you want you can sport a correct 2-hose tuneup sticker. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif) Just revisited the 12/25/2021 entry above which indicates the reverse (EC-A are 49 states and EC-B are California). (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) |
| wonkipop |
Jul 30 2022, 07:11 PM
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914 Guru ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5,171 Joined: 6-May 20 From: north antarctica Member No.: 24,231 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille
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@wonkipop I’m planning on redoing a sheet of tune up stickers. Could you remind me which ones had the single vacuum hose sticker (EC-A Caalifornia?) and which the dual hoses (EC-B non California?). I think I need to make a scorecard sheet to keep these variants straight. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) you got it right above steve. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) it was all a lot simpler 30 years ago living in ignorant bliss. Got it! Will let you and @Van B know when they're done so if you want you can sport a correct 2-hose tuneup sticker. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif) Just revisited the 12/25/2021 entry above which indicates the reverse (EC-A are 49 states and EC-B are California). (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) not sure what entry you are referring to. perhaps @JeffBowlsby at the start of it all suggesting EC-B was california and A was 49. jeff was using the logic of the 1,7 engines and later 75 cars. as we discovered it is german logic of a different order. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) EC-A = 74 california. EC-B = 74 49 states. its all there on page 1 of this thread with the photos to demonstrate. and as we know our cars are EC-B and are 49 states from new. in 75 it goes EC-a = 49 states. and EC-b = california. not capital letters. however that engine labelling only happens in a service introduction guide for dealers and mechanics to the 75 model. the engine emissions labels on all 75 cars is done in an updated manner that refers to engine families and engine type and no longer uses the EC format. i do believe there is a reason that happens with the capital A and the small a but i won't go into it here. suffice to say that basically a 74 california engine is in fact a 75 49 states. hence A becomes a. and in a more complex way the EC-B of 49 states becomes the EC-b of california a year later. but i will save that up unless someone really wants to know. its just an observation rather than something you can document from any contemporary technical documents. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer3.gif) |
wonkipop 1974 914 1.8 Dec 25 2021, 05:12 PM
wonkipop SURVEY OF MEMBERS WITH 74 1.8s.
INFORMATION FROM R... Dec 25 2021, 05:14 PM
wonkipop DATE - UP DATE OF VAPOR EMISSION CONTROL SYSTEM.
... Dec 25 2021, 05:19 PM
wonkipop EC-A and EC-B engines are most obviously identifie... Dec 25 2021, 05:41 PM
wonkipop emission stickers indicate that both engine versio... Dec 25 2021, 05:47 PM
wonkipop more to come Dec 25 2021, 06:29 PM
RRietman
more to come
If it makes any difference, I shoul... Dec 25 2021, 07:41 PM
wonkipop thanks for that info randy
i revised the schedule ... Dec 25 2021, 08:24 PM
wonkipop EC-A / EC-B THROTTLE BODY AND DISTRIBUTOR WITH VA... Dec 25 2021, 09:06 PM
wonkipop EXCEPTIONAL DATA 1
MYSTERY CAR
mr. b has documen... Dec 25 2021, 09:06 PM
wonkipop EXCEPTIONAL DATA 2
paint stamp engine number EA 3... Dec 25 2021, 09:43 PM
wonkipop EXCEPTIONAL DATA 3
EC-A engined car (california/C... Dec 25 2021, 10:12 PM
wonkipop A HYPOTHETICAL.
PAINT STAMP ENGINE NUMBER.
this ... Dec 25 2021, 10:32 PM
wonkipop POST SCRIPT
A TROUBLED BIRTH FOR L - JET / THE FI... Dec 25 2021, 11:21 PM
wonkipop VAPOR EMISSIONS CONTROL SYSTEM.
(aka the charcoal... Dec 26 2021, 12:38 AM
wonkipop revising comments welcome.
further documented 1.8... Dec 26 2021, 04:02 PM
StarBear Destined to be a classic (though imho it already i... Dec 26 2021, 08:07 PM
wonkipop post script
@StarBear
of course the 1.8 is a... Dec 27 2021, 04:54 PM
Van B Anyone else notice that hellhole rust on the museu... Dec 29 2021, 02:00 PM
wonkipop
Anyone else notice that hellhole rust on the muse... Dec 29 2021, 03:57 PM
Van B Was there any car in the US that got the AN or AT ... Dec 29 2021, 07:26 PM
wonkipop
Was there any car in the US that got the AN or AT... Dec 29 2021, 07:46 PM
Van B Well, really the point is to find high compression... Dec 29 2021, 10:54 PM
wonkipop
Well, really the point is to find high compressio... Dec 30 2021, 05:15 PM
JeffBowlsby AN engine in a factory 1974 914 GT (European-marke... Dec 31 2021, 10:25 AM
wonkipop ^
wow.
original motor? Dec 31 2021, 07:04 PM
wonkipop @[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showu... Jan 25 2022, 06:12 PM
StarBear Yep, I'm convinced. Probably (?) not a single ... Jan 25 2022, 06:39 PM
wonkipop
Yep, I'm convinced. Probably (?) not a single... Jan 25 2022, 07:24 PM
JeffBowlsby Nice detective work. I know of nothing in conflic... Jan 25 2022, 07:15 PM
wonkipop @StarBear
production looks to go like this for 74... Jan 25 2022, 07:51 PM
L-Jet914 What's interesting is when I replaced my ignit... Feb 1 2022, 11:17 PM
wonkipop
What's interesting is when I replaced my igni... Feb 2 2022, 04:12 PM
Van B @[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showu... Feb 20 2022, 11:21 PM
wonkipop
@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?show... Feb 21 2022, 03:39 AM
Van B I wonder what it sold for? And do you know if the ... Feb 21 2022, 10:59 AM
wonkipop
I would say we’re it not for a low budget mecha... Feb 21 2022, 03:41 PM
wonkipop also that yellow car is one more confirmation that... Feb 22 2022, 10:25 AM
Racer What a rather well documented thread.
Question.. ... Feb 22 2022, 02:28 PM
wonkipop
What a rather well documented thread.
Question..... Feb 22 2022, 04:21 PM
Van B @wonkipop
I remember you saying that about the sw... Feb 25 2022, 11:56 AM
wonkipop
[b]@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?s... Feb 25 2022, 08:40 PM
Van B Its got some PoS KYB on the rear and who knows wha... Feb 27 2022, 11:14 PM
wonkipop
Its got some PoS KYB on the rear and who knows wh... Feb 28 2022, 02:15 AM
StarBear Mine has the appearance group, sway bars and the b... Mar 24 2022, 06:53 AM
wonkipop for @Van B
came across this image in obscure part... Mar 27 2022, 01:37 AM
wonkipop VAPOR EMISSION CONTROL SYSTEM
update information.... May 22 2022, 01:03 PM
Van B @wonkipop
My car was not a frunk can. It is a re... May 25 2022, 09:06 AM
wonkipop
@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?show... May 25 2022, 05:02 PM
Van B Well, it may be inductive reasoning, but given the... May 25 2022, 05:45 PM
wonkipop
Well, it may be inductive reasoning, but given th... May 25 2022, 07:20 PM
JeffBowlsby Wonk,
You deserve an award for this charcoal ca... May 26 2022, 08:52 PM
wonkipop
Wonk,
You deserve an award for this charcoal c... May 27 2022, 03:53 AM
wonkipop
Wonk,
You deserve an award for this charcoal c... May 28 2022, 01:34 AM
wonkipop After all that research and thanks to all members ... Jun 5 2022, 01:18 AM
JeffBowlsby Niiiice. I see that architects hand... :drooley:
... Jun 6 2022, 06:50 AM
wonkipop
Niiiice. I see that architects hand... :drooley:... Jun 6 2022, 03:55 PM
StarBear @wonkipop [b]@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2... Jul 10 2022, 07:59 PM
wonkipop great stuff @StarBear
looks like you guys had a... Jul 10 2022, 10:03 PM
StarBear Yep; darn close to pinning it down, I’d say. Gre... Jul 11 2022, 06:22 AM
StarBear @rod911964 Rob - Here's the info we were di... Jul 11 2022, 01:41 PM
wonkipop @StarBear [b]@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2... Jul 12 2022, 06:29 PM
Van B Our cars really were like a beta test for the L-Je... Jul 12 2022, 09:21 PM
StarBear
Our cars really were like a beta test for the L-J... Jul 13 2022, 02:18 PM
StarBear Found another 74 (?) this morning behind a garage.... Jul 13 2022, 02:20 PM
wonkipop came across another plastic expansion tank 74.
clo... Jul 17 2022, 07:04 AM
StarBear @wonkipop BTW, what color is yours, and what ty... Jul 18 2022, 06:52 AM
wonkipop
[b]@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?s... Jul 18 2022, 07:50 AM
wonkipop just been scratching through my files here a bit m... Jul 18 2022, 08:02 AM
StarBear @wonkipop Something special made - for you fro... Jul 18 2022, 10:46 AM
wonkipop
[b]@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?s... Jul 18 2022, 04:48 PM
wonkipop
[b]@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?... Jul 18 2022, 07:35 PM
StarBear
[quote name='StarBear' post='3016011' date='Jul ... Jul 19 2022, 06:54 AM
wonkipop @[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showu... Jul 18 2022, 05:17 PM
Van B @wonkipop how many US spec ‘74 1.8s do you thin... Jul 18 2022, 05:54 PM
wonkipop
@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?show... Jul 18 2022, 06:45 PM
wonkipop
[b]@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?s... Jul 19 2022, 01:32 AM
Van B I don’t know how I missed that label lol! Y... Jul 18 2022, 08:08 PM
wonkipop
I don’t know how I missed that label lol! ... Jul 18 2022, 08:48 PM
wonkipop @Van B + [b]@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/i... Jul 19 2022, 12:12 AM
StarBear @wonkipop As promised, here's the white font... Jul 19 2022, 10:44 AM
wonkipop
[b]@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?s... Jul 19 2022, 03:17 PM
StarBear "L" is for L-Jet, obviously..... Jul 19 2022, 10:44 AM
Van B First off, you two are ridiculous lol...
Second, ... Jul 19 2022, 11:01 AM
StarBear Good move, Van.
My thought is that 1.8s may be th... Jul 19 2022, 01:06 PM
wonkipop
Good move, Van.
My thought is that 1.8s may be t... Jul 19 2022, 03:14 PM
StarBear Great! Works for you so go with it. Can apprec... Jul 19 2022, 07:05 PM
Van B Well, I straight up missed this page...
http://www... Jul 20 2022, 09:57 AM
wonkipop
Well, I straight up missed this page...
http://ww... Jul 20 2022, 04:37 PM
Van B Not really. You said you could figure exactly the ... Jul 20 2022, 05:18 PM
wonkipop
Not really. You said you could figure exactly the... Jul 20 2022, 05:22 PM
wonkipop @davep
i mentioned in pm that i had also seen an... Jul 22 2022, 02:00 AM
StarBear
[b]@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?s... Jul 22 2022, 05:34 AM
wonkipop
[b]@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?... Jul 22 2022, 06:02 AM
wonkipop new data
entered into tables on page 1 of thread.
... Jul 29 2022, 10:25 PM
JeffBowlsby I was thinking about the charcoal can air supply a... Aug 5 2022, 06:18 PM![]() ![]() |
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