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> Door hinges, Original door hinges… Painted?
Ishley
post Aug 2 2022, 09:20 PM
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I have a 1972 1.7 that I’m restoring. One of the areas that I can’t find any information on is how the door hinges were originally finished. Mine have been sprayed over several times and when I repaint I want it to look right.

Were the hinges painted to the same color of the car? What about the bolts and pins. We’re they painted or zinc/cadmium plated. I ran my bolts through my ultrasonic cleaner and it appears they are black underneath the layers of paint.

Does anyone have an original picture of how it was finished from the factory?
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mepstein
post Aug 4 2022, 02:56 PM
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Some of the very early cars are quite different from even the later 70’s but then again, with the big speaker cutout in the door, who knows what else has been done to the doors on that car.
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post Aug 4 2022, 03:09 PM
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QUOTE(mepstein @ Aug 4 2022, 01:56 PM) *

Some of the very early cars are quite different from even the later 70’s but then again, with the big speaker cutout in the door, who knows what else has been done to the doors on that car.


The doors appear to be original.

That door was painted 3 times after the factory — 1 time Tangerine, and then red and then a lighter red.

However, after stripping, the original orange paint was evident on the door bolts but not the pins which is consistent with rest of the cars shown in this thread (except the 6 that is highly suspect on account of it having overspray on the rubber seal).

One could say that any car could have had the doors taken off at the pins and the paint chipped off and then reinstalled. It's unlikely in my mind that plasma torch wielding car audio installers did anything to the door pins on this car (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Aug 4 2022, 04:26 PM
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QUOTE(nathanxnathan @ Aug 4 2022, 03:09 PM) *

QUOTE(mepstein @ Aug 4 2022, 01:56 PM) *

Some of the very early cars are quite different from even the later 70’s but then again, with the big speaker cutout in the door, who knows what else has been done to the doors on that car.


The doors appear to be original.

That door was painted 3 times after the factory — 1 time Tangerine, and then red and then a lighter red.

However, after stripping, the original orange paint was evident on the door bolts but not the pins which is consistent with rest of the cars shown in this thread (except the 6 that is highly suspect on account of it having overspray on the rubber seal).

One could say that any car could have had the doors taken off at the pins and the paint chipped off and then reinstalled. It's unlikely in my mind that plasma torch wielding car audio installers did anything to the door pins on this car (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)


the blue six on previous page has blue paint around the edges of the hinge pin.
and there is SKL1's car.

definitely later 914s are not painted there.
there are enough real original condition cars to say that for certain.
its interesting re the earlier cars.
if they were when is the cut off?
original poster's question is for a 72. so if they were painted his might be in the zone.

got taught a lesson about using logic when it came to 1.8s and EC-A or B engines.
so shouldn't speculate.
but it might be a legacy of porsche involvement in having a 6 model.
something they wanted done. might co-incide with the end of the 6.
but you know. it could just as easily be a revision of assembly line procedure at karmann and have nothing to do with either VW or Porsche. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Aug 4 2022, 05:33 PM
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QUOTE(wonkipop @ Aug 4 2022, 03:26 PM) *

if they were when is the cut off?
original poster's question is for a 72. so if they were painted his might be in the zone.


My 4/72 build date 72 was never painted (after the factory). The pins are unpainted, the door bolts are painted.

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The later cars (my 72) have pointed end door bolts but my 70 and 71 have flat end "regular" door hinge bolts. Possibly this could indicate the doors were taken off then put back on at the factory, Idk.
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Ishley   Door hinges   Aug 2 2022, 09:20 PM
wonkipop   74 1.8 orig paint think its same all years.   Aug 2 2022, 10:55 PM
sechszylinder   I have a 1972 1.7 that I’m restoring. One of th...   Aug 3 2022, 01:43 AM
StarBear   Here are mine. Original and unmolested to my best ...   Aug 3 2022, 05:53 AM
wonkipop   Here are mine. Original and unmolested to my best...   Aug 3 2022, 06:48 AM
mepstein   I’ve only seen painted.   Aug 3 2022, 06:18 AM
StarBear   I’ve only seen painted. Probably mine have bee...   Aug 3 2022, 06:39 AM
mepstein   I’ve only seen painted. Probably mine have be...   Aug 3 2022, 06:47 AM
StarBear   Oh, I may have changed them out many decades ago. ...   Aug 3 2022, 06:54 AM
mepstein   This is from the 27k mile car on bat. I’m not sa...   Aug 3 2022, 06:56 AM
wonkipop   here is my karmann tag proper in focus. she is no ...   Aug 3 2022, 07:08 AM
StarBear   And remember - Hans seems to have worked on buildi...   Aug 3 2022, 07:15 AM
9146GUY   My original 914-6 unmolested.   Aug 3 2022, 07:52 AM
wonkipop   My original 914-6 unmolested. wow whats thet...   Aug 3 2022, 08:02 AM
brant   I’m pretty sure they were all originally painted...   Aug 3 2022, 08:02 AM
mepstein   Looks like a Ziebart plug.   Aug 3 2022, 08:05 AM
wonkipop   Looks like a Ziebart plug. :beer2: of course...   Aug 3 2022, 08:18 AM
Ishley   Thanks everyone One thing that I can’t understa...   Aug 3 2022, 08:39 AM
nathanxnathan   Thanks everyone One thing that I can’t underst...   Aug 3 2022, 08:50 AM
mepstein   Production facilities have a lot of tools and tech...   Aug 3 2022, 09:02 AM
fixer34   I'll add to the mysteries... Factory -6, I...   Aug 3 2022, 11:36 AM
mepstein   I'll add to the mysteries... Factory -6, I...   Aug 3 2022, 02:36 PM
SirAndy   Always only seen fully painted on original cars .....   Aug 3 2022, 01:00 PM
wonkipop   Always only seen fully painted on original cars ....   Aug 3 2022, 04:19 PM
SirAndy   or......early cars (4s and 6s) got painted pins? ...   Aug 4 2022, 09:24 AM
wonkipop   couple more 74s from research file.   Aug 3 2022, 04:37 PM
StarBear   I’m convinced by the data and pics provided. Min...   Aug 3 2022, 04:47 PM
SKL1   Don't have a picture handy but I've had my...   Aug 3 2022, 08:19 PM
bbrock   I know this is a bit of apples and oranges being a...   Aug 4 2022, 01:08 PM
wonkipop   I know this is a bit of apples and oranges being ...   Aug 4 2022, 04:18 PM
StarBear   Wonder what a comparison to other Karmann cars (Ga...   Aug 4 2022, 01:23 PM
wonkipop   Wonder what a comparison to other Karmann cars (G...   Aug 6 2022, 01:47 AM
nathanxnathan   The car I've been working on is pretty early, ...   Aug 4 2022, 02:14 PM
mepstein   Some of the very early cars are quite different fr...   Aug 4 2022, 02:56 PM
nathanxnathan   Some of the very early cars are quite different f...   Aug 4 2022, 03:09 PM
wonkipop   Some of the very early cars are quite different ...   Aug 4 2022, 04:26 PM
nathanxnathan   if they were when is the cut off? original poster...   Aug 4 2022, 05:33 PM
wonkipop   i had a high speed cruise through BAT on 912s. ha...   Aug 4 2022, 05:06 PM
wonkipop   another 74 from the 1.8 engine research. 44K mile ...   Aug 4 2022, 05:08 PM
wonkipop   here is a 72 just up on BAT. inners all looked to ...   Aug 5 2022, 05:24 PM
wonkipop   had a good look in 912 section of BAT. managed to ...   Aug 5 2022, 11:52 PM
wonkipop   came across old ad for a 1970 914. most of the pa...   Aug 12 2022, 11:52 PM
nathanxnathan   came across old ad for a 1970 914. most of the p...   Aug 13 2022, 12:50 AM
wonkipop   came across old ad for a 1970 914. most of the ...   Aug 13 2022, 01:37 AM
nathanxnathan   even in 74 the karmann numbers wander around off ...   Aug 13 2022, 09:29 AM
wonkipop   [quote name='wonkipop' post='3022236' date='Aug 1...   Aug 13 2022, 03:30 PM
nathanxnathan   i doubt very much the K number on the white car g...   Aug 13 2022, 10:17 PM
wonkipop   i doubt very much the K number on the white car ...   Aug 14 2022, 01:39 AM
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BENBRO02   I’m thinking the factory aligned the doors befor...   Aug 13 2022, 02:54 PM
wonkipop   @nathanxnathan i think i found the answer to the...   Aug 14 2022, 06:23 AM
nathanxnathan   @[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?show...   Aug 14 2022, 02:39 PM
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