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Door hinges, Original door hinges… Painted? |
Ishley |
Aug 2 2022, 09:20 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 101 Joined: 4-October 21 From: Clarendon Hills Il Member No.: 25,957 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
I have a 1972 1.7 that I’m restoring. One of the areas that I can’t find any information on is how the door hinges were originally finished. Mine have been sprayed over several times and when I repaint I want it to look right.
Were the hinges painted to the same color of the car? What about the bolts and pins. We’re they painted or zinc/cadmium plated. I ran my bolts through my ultrasonic cleaner and it appears they are black underneath the layers of paint. Does anyone have an original picture of how it was finished from the factory? |
wonkipop |
Aug 12 2022, 11:52 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,371 Joined: 6-May 20 From: north antarctica Member No.: 24,231 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille |
came across old ad for a 1970 914.
most of the paint looks original. certainly all inners. only one image is a clear shot of the hinges. looks like the hinge pin could be painted in this early car. hard to discern but think its white paint there not bare metal hinge pin. @SirAndy might be good to shift this thread over to originality section of site? |
nathanxnathan |
Aug 13 2022, 12:50 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 284 Joined: 16-February 18 From: Laguna Beach, CA Member No.: 21,899 Region Association: Southern California |
came across old ad for a 1970 914. most of the paint looks original. certainly all inners. only one image is a clear shot of the hinges. looks like the hinge pin could be painted in this early car. hard to discern but think its white paint there not bare metal hinge pin. Opening the image in a new tab on the site will show it unscaled, but it's still indiscernible. I would say it looks unpainted if I had to guess. It's interesting that car's vin is 11,000 cars after mine, a fairly late 70, but the chassis number is 15 weeks before mine. It has the later driver seat tilt adjustment arm and the 2 section center tray. |
wonkipop |
Aug 13 2022, 01:37 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,371 Joined: 6-May 20 From: north antarctica Member No.: 24,231 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille |
came across old ad for a 1970 914. most of the paint looks original. certainly all inners. only one image is a clear shot of the hinges. looks like the hinge pin could be painted in this early car. hard to discern but think its white paint there not bare metal hinge pin. Opening the image in a new tab on the site will show it unscaled, but it's still indiscernible. I would say it looks unpainted if I had to guess. It's interesting that car's vin is 11,000 cars after mine, a fairly late 70, but the chassis number is 15 weeks before mine. It has the later driver seat tilt adjustment arm and the 2 section center tray. even in 74 the karmann numbers wander around off kilter with the vin numbers. however that does not sound quite right that there is such a discrepancy. you must have a very very early 69 car @nathanxnathan . it must be within the first thousand cars built and it must have been started 15 weeks before august 69. which is interesting. the one i found above is an august 70 car. right towards end of 70 MY production. |
nathanxnathan |
Aug 13 2022, 09:29 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 284 Joined: 16-February 18 From: Laguna Beach, CA Member No.: 21,899 Region Association: Southern California |
even in 74 the karmann numbers wander around off kilter with the vin numbers. however that does not sound quite right that there is such a discrepancy. you must have a very very early 69 car @nathanxnathan . it must be within the first thousand cars built and it must have been started 15 weeks before august 69. which is interesting. the one i found above is an august 70 car. right towards end of 70 MY production. @wonkipop My car, the vin and chassis number are pretty close, both in November of 69. Chassis #4839528 I work out to being the 28th car built on Wednesday Nov 25, 1969 The vin is 4702900987 I don't have a door sticker — it was removed during a respray I assume. The production numbers listed here on 914world go by actual year, saying 1543 4 cylinder cars were produced in 69, so my vin agrees with that, if it was #987. I think the production numbers here are based on vins, not chassis numbers? The white car, I can't make out the production date on the door sticker, but with vin 4702912026 that would make it the 12,026 — 11,000 cars later — pretty far on into 1970 for a completion date if there were about 22,000 1970 model year 4 cylinder cars. The white car's chassis number is 3319577 which I think is August 11th, 1969. So it sat as a chassis for 10 months or so? It seems like the chassis would have got painted, like they couldn't have left it around in bare metal that whole time. The Karmann badge is applied after paint so that seems logical that they create and mark the chassis with the number. Then the vin gets assigned once the whole car is assembled. I guess chassis numbers are what would be relevant here, rather than vins as it's a chassis question. |
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