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| Ishley |
Aug 2 2022, 09:20 PM
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 304 Joined: 4-October 21 From: Clarendon Hills Il Member No.: 25,957 Region Association: Upper MidWest
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I have a 1972 1.7 that I’m restoring. One of the areas that I can’t find any information on is how the door hinges were originally finished. Mine have been sprayed over several times and when I repaint I want it to look right.
Were the hinges painted to the same color of the car? What about the bolts and pins. We’re they painted or zinc/cadmium plated. I ran my bolts through my ultrasonic cleaner and it appears they are black underneath the layers of paint. Does anyone have an original picture of how it was finished from the factory? |
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| wonkipop |
Aug 14 2022, 06:23 AM
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@nathanxnathan
i think i found the answer to the question about 70 models. its there on this website in the members vin # listings. they appear to be building 70 MY 914s as late as sept 1970. unless members here were (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer3.gif) when they entered their info? how that works i do not know! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) germans! ![]() |
| nathanxnathan |
Aug 14 2022, 02:39 PM
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@nathanxnathan i think i found the answer to the question about 70 models. its there on this website in the members vin # listings. they appear to be building 70 MY 914s as late as sept 1970. unless members here were (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer3.gif) when they entered their info? how that works i do not know! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) germans! @wonkipop very cool to see. I should have checked the database! It would be nice if there was a form for picture verification of cars, like upload the chassis and vin number pics to have like verified entries. Some of what is there is questionable, like the last production 4 cylinder car of the 70 model year is 50,000 cars past the 2nd last (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) 4702963897 |
| wonkipop |
Aug 14 2022, 05:19 PM
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914 Guru ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5,205 Joined: 6-May 20 From: north antarctica Member No.: 24,231 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille
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@nathanxnathan i think i found the answer to the question about 70 models. its there on this website in the members vin # listings. they appear to be building 70 MY 914s as late as sept 1970. unless members here were (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer3.gif) when they entered their info? how that works i do not know! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) germans! @wonkipop very cool to see. I should have checked the database! It would be nice if there was a form for picture verification of cars, like upload the chassis and vin number pics to have like verified entries. Some of what is there is questionable, like the last production 4 cylinder car of the 70 model year is 50,000 cars past the 2nd last (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) 4702963897 yes and the first 71 on the vin list here is 4712900022 (first batch of finished 71 prod as 22 car). K # 3539579 = wed 26 aug 1970. the one above i posted is two from last of 70 at 13310. last car is supposed to be 312. K # = thurs 27 aug 1970. the body shell for the first 71 is started a day before the last 70. both have 09/70 vin stickers according to what the members entered. be interesting to study other years of production for this overlap. don't think it happens for 74 to 75 but you never know. EDIT - additional info. took a look at 74 to 75 transition on vin data base here. they appear to have taken a whole month off beginning mid july and ending mid august. near to end 74 =4742921331 (40 cars from end). seems it was a special creamsicle right near the end of production. K # = 2829547 = tues 9 july 74. near to start 75 = 4752900062 K # = 3349508 = thurs 15 Aug 74. its thought that during this month they shifted production line of 914s across to beetle and replaced discontinued karmann ghia. this is about the time of the beginning of the end for the 914 as they scale down production. they also start building corrados at this moment. so the summer break in production of 914s may have been unusually long. would have to go and look at transition from 73 to 74 to get a better idea of a typical summer break. just about all the data you need is here due to members building up the vin data base over the years. great resource. |
| wonkipop |
Aug 14 2022, 06:16 PM
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914 Guru ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5,205 Joined: 6-May 20 From: north antarctica Member No.: 24,231 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille
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@nathanxnathan i had a look at 73 to 74. last 73 is friday 20 july 73. 4732927642. (approx 20 cars from end). k # 2959583 first 74 is tues 14 august 73 4742900034 k # 33292504 4th car started, 34th Vin. conclusion they finish probably on friday 20 july and start up again on tuesday 14 august. about a three week break. so 70 to 71 transition speaks of either working through summer or perhaps picking up on overdue/late 70 orders at start of 71 production. |
Ishley Door hinges Aug 2 2022, 09:20 PM
wonkipop 74 1.8 orig paint
think its same all years.
Aug 2 2022, 10:55 PM
sechszylinder
I have a 1972 1.7 that I’m restoring. One of th... Aug 3 2022, 01:43 AM
StarBear Here are mine. Original and unmolested to my best ... Aug 3 2022, 05:53 AM
wonkipop
Here are mine. Original and unmolested to my best... Aug 3 2022, 06:48 AM
mepstein I’ve only seen painted. Aug 3 2022, 06:18 AM
StarBear
I’ve only seen painted.
Probably mine have bee... Aug 3 2022, 06:39 AM
mepstein
I’ve only seen painted.
Probably mine have be... Aug 3 2022, 06:47 AM
StarBear Oh, I may have changed them out many decades ago. ... Aug 3 2022, 06:54 AM
mepstein This is from the 27k mile car on bat. I’m not sa... Aug 3 2022, 06:56 AM
wonkipop here is my karmann tag proper in focus.
she is no ... Aug 3 2022, 07:08 AM
StarBear And remember - Hans seems to have worked on buildi... Aug 3 2022, 07:15 AM
9146GUY My original 914-6 unmolested.
Aug 3 2022, 07:52 AM
wonkipop
My original 914-6 unmolested.
wow
whats thet... Aug 3 2022, 08:02 AM
brant I’m pretty sure they were all originally painted... Aug 3 2022, 08:02 AM
mepstein Looks like a Ziebart plug. Aug 3 2022, 08:05 AM
wonkipop
Looks like a Ziebart plug.
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of course... Aug 3 2022, 08:18 AM
Ishley Thanks everyone
One thing that I can’t understa... Aug 3 2022, 08:39 AM
nathanxnathan
Thanks everyone
One thing that I can’t underst... Aug 3 2022, 08:50 AM
mepstein Production facilities have a lot of tools and tech... Aug 3 2022, 09:02 AM
fixer34 I'll add to the mysteries... Factory -6, I... Aug 3 2022, 11:36 AM
mepstein
I'll add to the mysteries... Factory -6, I... Aug 3 2022, 02:36 PM
SirAndy Always only seen fully painted on original cars ..... Aug 3 2022, 01:00 PM
wonkipop
Always only seen fully painted on original cars .... Aug 3 2022, 04:19 PM
SirAndy or......early cars (4s and 6s) got painted pins?
... Aug 4 2022, 09:24 AM
wonkipop couple more 74s from research file.
Aug 3 2022, 04:37 PM
StarBear I’m convinced by the data and pics provided. Min... Aug 3 2022, 04:47 PM
SKL1 Don't have a picture handy but I've had my... Aug 3 2022, 08:19 PM
bbrock I know this is a bit of apples and oranges being a... Aug 4 2022, 01:08 PM
wonkipop
I know this is a bit of apples and oranges being ... Aug 4 2022, 04:18 PM
StarBear Wonder what a comparison to other Karmann cars (Ga... Aug 4 2022, 01:23 PM
wonkipop
Wonder what a comparison to other Karmann cars (G... Aug 6 2022, 01:47 AM
nathanxnathan The car I've been working on is pretty early, ... Aug 4 2022, 02:14 PM
mepstein Some of the very early cars are quite different fr... Aug 4 2022, 02:56 PM
nathanxnathan
Some of the very early cars are quite different f... Aug 4 2022, 03:09 PM
wonkipop
Some of the very early cars are quite different ... Aug 4 2022, 04:26 PM
nathanxnathan
if they were when is the cut off?
original poster... Aug 4 2022, 05:33 PM
wonkipop i had a high speed cruise through BAT on 912s.
ha... Aug 4 2022, 05:06 PM
wonkipop another 74 from the 1.8 engine research.
44K mile ... Aug 4 2022, 05:08 PM
wonkipop here is a 72 just up on BAT.
inners all looked to ... Aug 5 2022, 05:24 PM
wonkipop had a good look in 912 section of BAT.
managed to ... Aug 5 2022, 11:52 PM
wonkipop came across old ad for a 1970 914.
most of the pa... Aug 12 2022, 11:52 PM
nathanxnathan
came across old ad for a 1970 914.
most of the p... Aug 13 2022, 12:50 AM
wonkipop
came across old ad for a 1970 914.
most of the ... Aug 13 2022, 01:37 AM
nathanxnathan
even in 74 the karmann numbers wander around off ... Aug 13 2022, 09:29 AM
wonkipop
[quote name='wonkipop' post='3022236' date='Aug 1... Aug 13 2022, 03:30 PM
nathanxnathan
i doubt very much the K number on the white car g... Aug 13 2022, 10:17 PM
wonkipop
i doubt very much the K number on the white car ... Aug 14 2022, 01:39 AM
dr914@autoatlanta.com 16,000 mile original 914-6 Aug 13 2022, 09:47 AM
wonkipop
16,000 mile original 914-6
what MY is that 914... Aug 13 2022, 03:32 PM
StarBear Took the time/effort to clean, prime, and paint my... Aug 13 2022, 10:00 AM
wonkipop
Took the time/effort to clean, prime, and paint m... Aug 13 2022, 04:02 PM
BENBRO02 I’m thinking the factory aligned the doors befor... Aug 13 2022, 02:54 PM
StarBear Yep, my 74 produced in Nov 74 but lag until I got ... Aug 14 2022, 03:58 PM
wonkipop
Yep, my 74 produced in Nov 74 but lag until I got... Aug 14 2022, 05:22 PM
nathanxnathan @wonkipop Impressive research :beer2:
So most ... Aug 14 2022, 11:33 PM
wonkipop
[b]@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?s... Aug 14 2022, 11:53 PM![]() ![]() |
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