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> Door hinges, Original door hinges… Painted?
Ishley
post Aug 2 2022, 09:20 PM
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I have a 1972 1.7 that I’m restoring. One of the areas that I can’t find any information on is how the door hinges were originally finished. Mine have been sprayed over several times and when I repaint I want it to look right.

Were the hinges painted to the same color of the car? What about the bolts and pins. We’re they painted or zinc/cadmium plated. I ran my bolts through my ultrasonic cleaner and it appears they are black underneath the layers of paint.

Does anyone have an original picture of how it was finished from the factory?
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wonkipop
post Aug 14 2022, 06:23 AM
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@nathanxnathan

i think i found the answer to the question about 70 models.
its there on this website in the members vin # listings.
they appear to be building 70 MY 914s as late as sept 1970.
unless members here were (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer3.gif) when they entered their info?
how that works i do not know! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)
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post Aug 14 2022, 02:39 PM
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QUOTE(wonkipop @ Aug 14 2022, 05:23 AM) *

@nathanxnathan

i think i found the answer to the question about 70 models.
its there on this website in the members vin # listings.
they appear to be building 70 MY 914s as late as sept 1970.
unless members here were (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer3.gif) when they entered their info?
how that works i do not know! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)
germans!

@wonkipop very cool to see. I should have checked the database!

It would be nice if there was a form for picture verification of cars, like upload the chassis and vin number pics to have like verified entries. Some of what is there is questionable, like the last production 4 cylinder car of the 70 model year is 50,000 cars past the 2nd last (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) 4702963897
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post Aug 14 2022, 05:19 PM
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QUOTE(wonkipop @ Aug 14 2022, 05:23 AM) *

@nathanxnathan

i think i found the answer to the question about 70 models.
its there on this website in the members vin # listings.
they appear to be building 70 MY 914s as late as sept 1970.
unless members here were (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer3.gif) when they entered their info?
how that works i do not know! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)
germans!

@wonkipop very cool to see. I should have checked the database!

It would be nice if there was a form for picture verification of cars, like upload the chassis and vin number pics to have like verified entries. Some of what is there is questionable, like the last production 4 cylinder car of the 70 model year is 50,000 cars past the 2nd last (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) 4702963897



yes

and the first 71 on the vin list here is 4712900022 (first batch of finished 71 prod as 22 car). K # 3539579 = wed 26 aug 1970.

the one above i posted is two from last of 70 at 13310. last car is supposed to be 312.
K # = thurs 27 aug 1970.

the body shell for the first 71 is started a day before the last 70.
both have 09/70 vin stickers according to what the members entered.

be interesting to study other years of production for this overlap.
don't think it happens for 74 to 75 but you never know.


EDIT - additional info.
took a look at 74 to 75 transition on vin data base here.
they appear to have taken a whole month off beginning mid july and ending mid august.

near to end 74 =4742921331 (40 cars from end).
seems it was a special creamsicle right near the end of production.
K # = 2829547 = tues 9 july 74.

near to start 75 = 4752900062
K # = 3349508 = thurs 15 Aug 74.

its thought that during this month they shifted production line of 914s across to beetle and replaced discontinued karmann ghia. this is about the time of the beginning of the end for the 914 as they scale down production. they also start building corrados at this moment. so the summer break in production of 914s may have been unusually long.

would have to go and look at transition from 73 to 74 to get a better idea of a typical summer break. just about all the data you need is here due to members building up the vin data base over the years. great resource.
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post Aug 14 2022, 06:16 PM
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@nathanxnathan

i had a look at 73 to 74.

last 73 is friday 20 july 73.
4732927642. (approx 20 cars from end).
k # 2959583

first 74 is tues 14 august 73
4742900034
k # 33292504 4th car started, 34th Vin.

conclusion they finish probably on friday 20 july and start up again on tuesday 14 august.
about a three week break.

so 70 to 71 transition speaks of either working through summer or perhaps picking up on overdue/late 70 orders at start of 71 production.
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Ishley   Door hinges   Aug 2 2022, 09:20 PM
wonkipop   74 1.8 orig paint think its same all years.   Aug 2 2022, 10:55 PM
sechszylinder   I have a 1972 1.7 that I’m restoring. One of th...   Aug 3 2022, 01:43 AM
StarBear   Here are mine. Original and unmolested to my best ...   Aug 3 2022, 05:53 AM
wonkipop   Here are mine. Original and unmolested to my best...   Aug 3 2022, 06:48 AM
mepstein   I’ve only seen painted.   Aug 3 2022, 06:18 AM
StarBear   I’ve only seen painted. Probably mine have bee...   Aug 3 2022, 06:39 AM
mepstein   I’ve only seen painted. Probably mine have be...   Aug 3 2022, 06:47 AM
StarBear   Oh, I may have changed them out many decades ago. ...   Aug 3 2022, 06:54 AM
mepstein   This is from the 27k mile car on bat. I’m not sa...   Aug 3 2022, 06:56 AM
wonkipop   here is my karmann tag proper in focus. she is no ...   Aug 3 2022, 07:08 AM
StarBear   And remember - Hans seems to have worked on buildi...   Aug 3 2022, 07:15 AM
9146GUY   My original 914-6 unmolested.   Aug 3 2022, 07:52 AM
wonkipop   My original 914-6 unmolested. wow whats thet...   Aug 3 2022, 08:02 AM
brant   I’m pretty sure they were all originally painted...   Aug 3 2022, 08:02 AM
mepstein   Looks like a Ziebart plug.   Aug 3 2022, 08:05 AM
wonkipop   Looks like a Ziebart plug. :beer2: of course...   Aug 3 2022, 08:18 AM
Ishley   Thanks everyone One thing that I can’t understa...   Aug 3 2022, 08:39 AM
nathanxnathan   Thanks everyone One thing that I can’t underst...   Aug 3 2022, 08:50 AM
mepstein   Production facilities have a lot of tools and tech...   Aug 3 2022, 09:02 AM
fixer34   I'll add to the mysteries... Factory -6, I...   Aug 3 2022, 11:36 AM
mepstein   I'll add to the mysteries... Factory -6, I...   Aug 3 2022, 02:36 PM
SirAndy   Always only seen fully painted on original cars .....   Aug 3 2022, 01:00 PM
wonkipop   Always only seen fully painted on original cars ....   Aug 3 2022, 04:19 PM
SirAndy   or......early cars (4s and 6s) got painted pins? ...   Aug 4 2022, 09:24 AM
wonkipop   couple more 74s from research file.   Aug 3 2022, 04:37 PM
StarBear   I’m convinced by the data and pics provided. Min...   Aug 3 2022, 04:47 PM
SKL1   Don't have a picture handy but I've had my...   Aug 3 2022, 08:19 PM
bbrock   I know this is a bit of apples and oranges being a...   Aug 4 2022, 01:08 PM
wonkipop   I know this is a bit of apples and oranges being ...   Aug 4 2022, 04:18 PM
StarBear   Wonder what a comparison to other Karmann cars (Ga...   Aug 4 2022, 01:23 PM
wonkipop   Wonder what a comparison to other Karmann cars (G...   Aug 6 2022, 01:47 AM
nathanxnathan   The car I've been working on is pretty early, ...   Aug 4 2022, 02:14 PM
mepstein   Some of the very early cars are quite different fr...   Aug 4 2022, 02:56 PM
nathanxnathan   Some of the very early cars are quite different f...   Aug 4 2022, 03:09 PM
wonkipop   Some of the very early cars are quite different ...   Aug 4 2022, 04:26 PM
nathanxnathan   if they were when is the cut off? original poster...   Aug 4 2022, 05:33 PM
wonkipop   i had a high speed cruise through BAT on 912s. ha...   Aug 4 2022, 05:06 PM
wonkipop   another 74 from the 1.8 engine research. 44K mile ...   Aug 4 2022, 05:08 PM
wonkipop   here is a 72 just up on BAT. inners all looked to ...   Aug 5 2022, 05:24 PM
wonkipop   had a good look in 912 section of BAT. managed to ...   Aug 5 2022, 11:52 PM
wonkipop   came across old ad for a 1970 914. most of the pa...   Aug 12 2022, 11:52 PM
nathanxnathan   came across old ad for a 1970 914. most of the p...   Aug 13 2022, 12:50 AM
wonkipop   came across old ad for a 1970 914. most of the ...   Aug 13 2022, 01:37 AM
nathanxnathan   even in 74 the karmann numbers wander around off ...   Aug 13 2022, 09:29 AM
wonkipop   [quote name='wonkipop' post='3022236' date='Aug 1...   Aug 13 2022, 03:30 PM
nathanxnathan   i doubt very much the K number on the white car g...   Aug 13 2022, 10:17 PM
wonkipop   i doubt very much the K number on the white car ...   Aug 14 2022, 01:39 AM
dr914@autoatlanta.com   16,000 mile original 914-6   Aug 13 2022, 09:47 AM
wonkipop   16,000 mile original 914-6 what MY is that 914...   Aug 13 2022, 03:32 PM
StarBear   Took the time/effort to clean, prime, and paint my...   Aug 13 2022, 10:00 AM
wonkipop   Took the time/effort to clean, prime, and paint m...   Aug 13 2022, 04:02 PM
BENBRO02   I’m thinking the factory aligned the doors befor...   Aug 13 2022, 02:54 PM
wonkipop   @nathanxnathan i think i found the answer to the...   Aug 14 2022, 06:23 AM
nathanxnathan   @[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?show...   Aug 14 2022, 02:39 PM
wonkipop   [quote name='wonkipop' post='3022440' date='Aug 1...   Aug 14 2022, 05:19 PM
wonkipop   @nathanxnathan i had a look at 73 to 74. last 7...   Aug 14 2022, 06:16 PM
StarBear   Yep, my 74 produced in Nov 74 but lag until I got ...   Aug 14 2022, 03:58 PM
wonkipop   Yep, my 74 produced in Nov 74 but lag until I got...   Aug 14 2022, 05:22 PM
nathanxnathan   @wonkipop Impressive research :beer2: So most ...   Aug 14 2022, 11:33 PM
wonkipop   [b]@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?s...   Aug 14 2022, 11:53 PM


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