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Bringing it back:, Improved Original for 4742910780 |
Van B |
Aug 16 2022, 05:51 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,612 Joined: 20-October 21 From: Maryland Member No.: 26,011 Region Association: None |
Evening 914 World!
I’ve been gathering parts over the past few months and have finally reached critical mass. So, let the project thread begin! After working on the FI through the winter, I’m satisfied that the engine remains in good health with it’s original 53k miles. However, the rubber and plastic holding everything together is a different story. Which brings me to the scope and objective of this project. In short, I am looking for what I will call, “Improved Original”. What the phrase means to me is that I want to maintain the character and feel of the original car, but still take advantage of any and all modern improvements that will either, improve reliability, safety, operability, or any combination there of. This will include a suspension and chassis rebuild, power train reseal and refinishing, brake system rebuild, and fuel system overhaul. When I’m done, I want to have a car that drives like it’s nearly new, but doesn’t look over restored. Because the car is a survivor, I think it’s important to keep the stories and history of the car intact. Finally, I’d like to post my thanks to the community and vendors that make it possible to enjoy this hobby. Stay tuned! Van Attached thumbnail(s) |
Van B |
Aug 16 2022, 07:15 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,612 Joined: 20-October 21 From: Maryland Member No.: 26,011 Region Association: None |
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StarBear |
Aug 16 2022, 08:02 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,910 Joined: 2-September 09 From: NJ Member No.: 10,753 Region Association: North East States |
Great! Direct fitment, or mods needed? |
Van B |
Aug 16 2022, 08:10 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,612 Joined: 20-October 21 From: Maryland Member No.: 26,011 Region Association: None |
Great! Direct fitment, or mods needed? Bolts right up like the original part. But I still used new hardware. |
StarBear |
Aug 17 2022, 10:42 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,910 Joined: 2-September 09 From: NJ Member No.: 10,753 Region Association: North East States |
Great! Direct fitment, or mods needed? Bolts right up like the original part. But I still used new hardware. Got the right PET diagram now. Think I'm going to do this - they're still the originals IIRC. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer.gif) |
StarBear |
Aug 17 2022, 02:22 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,910 Joined: 2-September 09 From: NJ Member No.: 10,753 Region Association: North East States |
Great! Direct fitment, or mods needed? Bolts right up like the original part. But I still used new hardware. Got the right PET diagram now. Think I'm going to do this - they're still the originals IIRC. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer.gif) Van; Rats. Looked under there and the center bolts are upside down (nut on bottom) - must have happened when engine out at 70k miles. So, no way to change out mounts without dropping trans? |
wonkipop |
Aug 17 2022, 10:16 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,402 Joined: 6-May 20 From: north antarctica Member No.: 24,231 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille |
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Van; Rats. Looked under there and the center bolts are upside down (nut on bottom) - must have happened when engine out at 70k miles. So, no way to change out mounts without dropping trans? [/quote] one more thing @StarBear i don't think Van B minds me expanding on esoterica - cause he knows i am a sceptic and contrarian (ie trouble making upside down a-hole (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) ) it is my firm opinion your bolts aren't on "upside down". its a myth that someone has come up with based on the PET diagram? i'll explain why. its coming back to me because i ghosted these forums when i was recommissioning the wallaby 3 years back and read it all in some long lost thread here were a bunch of guys went at each other about those mounts. 1) mine were on apparently "upside down". ie nuts at bottom bolt facing down. photo before we started work. you can see them. 2. here is the top of the mount we removed. still liberally goobered with original undercoating that got sprayed all around in there by some kook toking on a stoobie back in 74. it had never been off. the evidence was fairly compelling. so the mounts before we started where "upside down" and had been so called "upside down" since the day it was built. 99% certain on that. granted. some stoned german could have screwed it up the wrong way on the assembly line. or they dropped the motor in the workshop before they sold it new or sent it off to the undercoaters for some reason. but i very much doubt it. additionally if you look through the factory manuals there are photos of the mounts in question in situ in the car with the nuts on the bottom. so.....if you ask me yours are not upside down at all. ------ i think where the myth comes from is the early cars up to 73. they have forward engine mounts for a solid mounted cross bar. similar or identical mounts to gearbox. and if i am not mistaken the only way you can get the bolt in is from below and do the nut up on top. but i could be wrong. don't have an early car to know. i think they just followed the same convention for the rear mounts. but i can assure you its academic. it makes no difference to the rear mounts because you slide them out through the forked transmission casting. and we don't have forward mounts on our later cars. they are smaller rubber mounts in the centre of the bar where it is joined to the engine. --------- i also now remember the factory manual is real skinny on the engine mount issue. seems to have been written for the 70-72 cars with different mounts. probably the manual i have was supposed to have a revision and its been lost. we might have just tightened up the transmission mount centre bolt firmly. i can't remember but i can ask mike next monday for you. i left that to him. he knows 911s backwards so he probably didn't think twice about it whatever he did. -------- |
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