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> Is your FLAPS disappearing, ...or generally a waste of time
914werke
post Sep 8 2022, 04:29 PM
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(IMG:style_emoticons/default/mad.gif) I remember when there were multiple differing parts suppliers including 1 or 2 thriving hot rod shops. Now its down to 2 or 3 which ALL carry the same thing & are staffed with a revolving barrel of monkeys. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/chair.gif)
The interweb & Amazon have killed your corner auto parts store.
I had a Worldpac account until even Redline weber started limiting the ACVW stuff they carried. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/hissyfit.gif)
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post Sep 9 2022, 04:38 AM
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I’m going to start with a premise that Advance Auto, O’Rileys, AutoZone, and the chain stores are not really FLAPS. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/barf.gif)

FLAPS is the crusty local place that has an automotive machine shop in the back and a counter staffed by men who actually know the difference between a Weber and a Holly carb and have actually rebuilt a carb a time or ten. They should actually know what decking a head or resizing rods means and have the equipment and someone in house that can do it!

The counter staff should know the difference between a crankshaft and a camshaft. Ideally they might even have a dusty old Edelbrock box or two still hanging around from the 80s waiting for someone rebuilding a small block.

When I’m heading toward where the oil and filters are, the first question shouldn’t be what year, make, and model. There should be a greasy, dirty, dog eared paper catalogs near said filters that I can look up what filter fits what. Of course, that cross reference book is only needed when I don’t already know which filter I need by memory like when I buy a “new” used 30 year old car I’ve never changed the oil on before.

When I want transmission oil cooler hose - they should not bring me fuel hose or heater hose. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/chair.gif) I shouldn’t have to explain to them what the difference is and why it matters.

So by my definition, FLAPS are almost extinct. There are a few still around but they are becoming increasingly hard to find. Sometimes I still find an old school NAPA that is OK but increasingly they too are staffed by people that clearly don’t know a Porsche from a Pontiac.

Signed - grumpy old man who avoids the chain auto parts stores like the plague. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Sep 9 2022, 04:55 AM
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QUOTE(Superhawk996 @ Sep 9 2022, 04:38 AM) *

I’m going to start with a premise that Advance Auto, O’Rileys, AutoZone, and the chain stores are not really FLAPS. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/barf.gif)

FLAPS is the crusty local place that has an automotive machine shop in the back and a counter staffed by men who actually know the difference between a Weber and a Holly carb and have actually rebuilt a carb a time or ten. They should actually know what decking a head or resizing rods means and have the equipment and someone in house that can do it!

The counter staff should know the difference between a crankshaft and a camshaft. Ideally they might even have a dusty old Edelbrock box or two still hanging around from the 80s waiting for someone rebuilding a small block.

When I’m heading toward where the oil and filters are, the first question shouldn’t be what year, make, and model. There should be a greasy, dirty, dog eared paper catalogs near said filters that I can look up what filter fits what. Of course, that cross reference book is only needed when I don’t already know which filter I need by memory like when I buy a “new” used 30 year old car I’ve never changed the oil on before.

When I want transmission oil cooler hose - they should not bring me fuel hose or heater hose. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/chair.gif) I shouldn’t have to explain to them what the difference is and why it matters.

So by my definition, FLAPS are almost extinct. There are a few still around but they are becoming increasingly hard to find. Sometimes I still find an old school NAPA that is OK but increasingly they too are staffed by people that clearly don’t know a Porsche from a Pontiac.

Signed - grumpy old man who avoids the chain auto parts stores like the plague. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)


Same with hardware stores, basically a thing of the past.

My local NAPA is decent, at least the counter is not manned with younger kids who have no clue

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914werke   Is your FLAPS disappearing   Sep 8 2022, 04:29 PM
GregAmy   I'll go there is it's very time-sensitive ...   Sep 8 2022, 04:46 PM
Front yard mechanic   Went to Napa the other day at their distribution c...   Sep 8 2022, 04:52 PM
Justinp71   We have a Napa / Riebes by me best parts in the ar...   Sep 8 2022, 04:57 PM
StarBear   FLAPS good for routine supplies but not parts. The...   Sep 8 2022, 05:00 PM
Bullethead   But Rock Auto has all the parts you'll ever ne...   Sep 8 2022, 05:01 PM
FlacaProductions   I try. I really do. My 914 lives in a small, mid...   Sep 8 2022, 05:11 PM
mepstein   In a lot of cases, it doesn’t make sense to stoc...   Sep 8 2022, 05:16 PM
emerygt350   I had some good help from the guys at Napa recentl...   Sep 8 2022, 06:00 PM
914Sixer   FLAPS counter help in town is turning into a joke....   Sep 8 2022, 06:43 PM
bkrantz   Within 100 miles I can go to NAPA (sometimes succe...   Sep 8 2022, 07:03 PM
sixnotfour   Even wholesale suplliers are , lacking ,, I used t...   Sep 8 2022, 09:44 PM
Mikey914   Well, if you are having a hard time finding parts ...   Sep 8 2022, 10:25 PM
Superhawk996   I’m going to start with a premise that Advance A...   Sep 9 2022, 04:38 AM
930cabman   I’m going to start with a premise that Advance ...   Sep 9 2022, 04:55 AM
ClayPerrine   I’m going to start with a premise that Advance...   Sep 9 2022, 05:44 AM
Geezer914   Finding parts at a local NAPA or AutoZone is like ...   Sep 9 2022, 05:36 AM
campbellcj   Samey samey here - for years I've only bought ...   Sep 9 2022, 07:35 AM
VaccaRabite   You gotta know the limits. The local places are g...   Sep 9 2022, 08:02 AM
jd74914   It's not just auto parts though. The same issu...   Sep 9 2022, 08:38 AM
Root_Werks   I would say locally in the PNW, not really disappe...   Sep 9 2022, 09:50 AM
bbrock   Interesting thread on a topic I hadn't thought...   Sep 9 2022, 10:44 AM
Craigers17   We still have one mom and pop auto parts store lef...   Sep 9 2022, 10:52 AM
era vulgaris   Welcome to capitalism, where businesses sell produ...   Sep 9 2022, 10:31 PM
tom.esh   I recently had Napa tell me to check with a clutc...   Sep 10 2022, 06:31 AM
Mikey914   The moral of the story is supporting the niche ven...   Sep 10 2022, 10:50 AM
914Sixer   Went to NAPA, AutoZone and O'Reillys this morn...   Sep 10 2022, 11:06 AM
Superhawk996   Went to NAPA, AutoZone and O'Reillys this mor...   Sep 10 2022, 11:20 AM
914sgofast2   Went to NAPA, AutoZone and O'Reillys this mo...   Sep 10 2022, 07:58 PM
914werke   I’ve literally left stock on counters and walke...   Sep 10 2022, 12:03 PM
bbrock   I’ve literally left stock on counters and walk...   Sep 10 2022, 12:38 PM
Maltese Falcon   Here in SoCal, the PepBoys* auto parts have been b...   Sep 10 2022, 09:15 PM


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