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| 914werke | 
			
			  Sep 8 2022, 04:29 PM
			
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			 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mad.gif) I remember when there were multiple differing parts suppliers including 1 or 2 thriving hot rod shops. Now its down to 2 or 3 which ALL carry the same thing & are staffed with a revolving barrel of monkeys.   (IMG:style_emoticons/default/chair.gif)  
			
			
					
		The interweb & Amazon have killed your corner auto parts store. I had a Worldpac account until even Redline weber started limiting the ACVW stuff they carried. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/hissyfit.gif)  | 
	
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| Superhawk996 | 
			
			  Sep 9 2022, 04:38 AM
			
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			 I’m going to start with a premise that Advance Auto, O’Rileys, AutoZone, and the chain stores are not really FLAPS.   (IMG:style_emoticons/default/barf.gif)  
			
			
					
		FLAPS is the crusty local place that has an automotive machine shop in the back and a counter staffed by men who actually know the difference between a Weber and a Holly carb and have actually rebuilt a carb a time or ten. They should actually know what decking a head or resizing rods means and have the equipment and someone in house that can do it! The counter staff should know the difference between a crankshaft and a camshaft. Ideally they might even have a dusty old Edelbrock box or two still hanging around from the 80s waiting for someone rebuilding a small block. When I’m heading toward where the oil and filters are, the first question shouldn’t be what year, make, and model. There should be a greasy, dirty, dog eared paper catalogs near said filters that I can look up what filter fits what. Of course, that cross reference book is only needed when I don’t already know which filter I need by memory like when I buy a “new” used 30 year old car I’ve never changed the oil on before. When I want transmission oil cooler hose - they should not bring me fuel hose or heater hose. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/chair.gif) I shouldn’t have to explain to them what the difference is and why it matters. So by my definition, FLAPS are almost extinct. There are a few still around but they are becoming increasingly hard to find. Sometimes I still find an old school NAPA that is OK but increasingly they too are staffed by people that clearly don’t know a Porsche from a Pontiac. Signed - grumpy old man who avoids the chain auto parts stores like the plague. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)  | 
	
| 930cabman | 
			
			  Sep 9 2022, 04:55 AM
			
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        		 Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 4,317 Joined: 12-November 20 From: Buffalo Member No.: 24,877 Region Association: North East States   
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			 I’m going to start with a premise that Advance Auto, O’Rileys, AutoZone, and the chain stores are not really FLAPS. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/barf.gif) FLAPS is the crusty local place that has an automotive machine shop in the back and a counter staffed by men who actually know the difference between a Weber and a Holly carb and have actually rebuilt a carb a time or ten. They should actually know what decking a head or resizing rods means and have the equipment and someone in house that can do it! The counter staff should know the difference between a crankshaft and a camshaft. Ideally they might even have a dusty old Edelbrock box or two still hanging around from the 80s waiting for someone rebuilding a small block. When I’m heading toward where the oil and filters are, the first question shouldn’t be what year, make, and model. There should be a greasy, dirty, dog eared paper catalogs near said filters that I can look up what filter fits what. Of course, that cross reference book is only needed when I don’t already know which filter I need by memory like when I buy a “new” used 30 year old car I’ve never changed the oil on before. When I want transmission oil cooler hose - they should not bring me fuel hose or heater hose. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/chair.gif) I shouldn’t have to explain to them what the difference is and why it matters. So by my definition, FLAPS are almost extinct. There are a few still around but they are becoming increasingly hard to find. Sometimes I still find an old school NAPA that is OK but increasingly they too are staffed by people that clearly don’t know a Porsche from a Pontiac. Signed - grumpy old man who avoids the chain auto parts stores like the plague. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Same with hardware stores, basically a thing of the past. My local NAPA is decent, at least the counter is not manned with younger kids who have no clue Another grumpy old guy  | 
	
| ClayPerrine | 
			
			  Sep 9 2022, 05:44 AM
			
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        		 Life's been good to me so far..... ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 16,526 Joined: 11-September 03 From: Hurst, TX. Member No.: 1,143 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille   
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			 I’m going to start with a premise that Advance Auto, O’Rileys, AutoZone, and the chain stores are not really FLAPS. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/barf.gif) FLAPS is the crusty local place that has an automotive machine shop in the back and a counter staffed by men who actually know the difference between a Weber and a Holly carb and have actually rebuilt a carb a time or ten. They should actually know what decking a head or resizing rods means and have the equipment and someone in house that can do it! The counter staff should know the difference between a crankshaft and a camshaft. Ideally they might even have a dusty old Edelbrock box or two still hanging around from the 80s waiting for someone rebuilding a small block. When I’m heading toward where the oil and filters are, the first question shouldn’t be what year, make, and model. There should be a greasy, dirty, dog eared paper catalogs near said filters that I can look up what filter fits what. Of course, that cross reference book is only needed when I don’t already know which filter I need by memory like when I buy a “new” used 30 year old car I’ve never changed the oil on before. When I want transmission oil cooler hose - they should not bring me fuel hose or heater hose. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/chair.gif) I shouldn’t have to explain to them what the difference is and why it matters. So by my definition, FLAPS are almost extinct. There are a few still around but they are becoming increasingly hard to find. Sometimes I still find an old school NAPA that is OK but increasingly they too are staffed by people that clearly don’t know a Porsche from a Pontiac. Signed - grumpy old man who avoids the chain auto parts stores like the plague. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Same with hardware stores, basically a thing of the past. My local NAPA is decent, at least the counter is not manned with younger kids who have no clue Another grumpy old guy (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) There is an O'Reilly around the corner from me. I buy oil, carb cleaner, batteries, bulk vacuum hose and stuff like that when I am there. I don't even try to find 914 parts there. They are OK when it comes to parts for the 06 GMC Envoy, but even parts for my old Jeep pickup are questionable. They used to have a bunch of guys there that knew something about cars. They are gone and the counter people there are a bunch of kids that only know what the computer says. For anything complex, I either go to Zims, order from one of our suppliers on here like AA, 914Rubber, PMB, Tangerine, BDStone and others. Or I go to the internet and use PET to get the Porsche part number, then I do a search for it and buy it online. Another grumpy old guy.  | 
	
 914werke   Is your FLAPS disappearing   Sep 8 2022, 04:29 PM
 
 GregAmy   I'll go there is it's very time-sensitive ...   Sep 8 2022, 04:46 PM
 
 Front yard mechanic   Went to Napa the other day at their distribution c...   Sep 8 2022, 04:52 PM
 
 Justinp71   We have a Napa / Riebes by me best parts in the ar...   Sep 8 2022, 04:57 PM
 
 StarBear   FLAPS good for routine supplies but not parts. The...   Sep 8 2022, 05:00 PM
 
 Bullethead   But Rock Auto has all the parts you'll ever ne...   Sep 8 2022, 05:01 PM
 
 FlacaProductions   I try. I really do.  
My 914 lives in a small, mid...   Sep 8 2022, 05:11 PM
 
 mepstein   In a lot of cases, it doesn’t make sense to stoc...   Sep 8 2022, 05:16 PM
 
 emerygt350   I had some good help from the guys at Napa recentl...   Sep 8 2022, 06:00 PM
 
 914Sixer   FLAPS counter help in town is turning into a joke....   Sep 8 2022, 06:43 PM
 
 bkrantz   Within 100 miles I can go to NAPA (sometimes succe...   Sep 8 2022, 07:03 PM
 
 sixnotfour   Even wholesale suplliers are , lacking ,, I used t...   Sep 8 2022, 09:44 PM
 
 Mikey914   Well, if you are having a hard time finding parts ...   Sep 8 2022, 10:25 PM
 
 Geezer914   Finding parts at a local NAPA or AutoZone is like ...   Sep 9 2022, 05:36 AM
 
 campbellcj   Samey samey here - for years I've only bought ...   Sep 9 2022, 07:35 AM
 
 VaccaRabite   You gotta know the limits.  The local places are g...   Sep 9 2022, 08:02 AM
 
 jd74914   It's not just auto parts though. The same issu...   Sep 9 2022, 08:38 AM
 
 Root_Werks   I would say locally in the PNW, not really disappe...   Sep 9 2022, 09:50 AM
 
 bbrock   Interesting thread on a topic I hadn't thought...   Sep 9 2022, 10:44 AM
 
 Craigers17   We still have one mom and pop auto parts store lef...   Sep 9 2022, 10:52 AM
 
 era vulgaris   Welcome to capitalism, where businesses sell produ...   Sep 9 2022, 10:31 PM
 
 tom.esh   I recently  had Napa tell me to check with a clutc...   Sep 10 2022, 06:31 AM
 
 Mikey914   The moral of the story is supporting the niche ven...   Sep 10 2022, 10:50 AM
 
 914Sixer   Went to NAPA, AutoZone and O'Reillys this morn...   Sep 10 2022, 11:06 AM
 
 Superhawk996   
Went to NAPA, AutoZone and O'Reillys this mor...   Sep 10 2022, 11:20 AM
 
 914sgofast2   
Went to NAPA, AutoZone and O'Reillys this mo...   Sep 10 2022, 07:58 PM
 
 914werke    I’ve literally left stock on counters and walke...   Sep 10 2022, 12:03 PM
 
 bbrock   
 I’ve literally left stock on counters and walk...   Sep 10 2022, 12:38 PM
 
 Maltese Falcon   Here in SoCal, the PepBoys* auto parts have been b...   Sep 10 2022, 09:15 PM![]() ![]()  | 
	
 
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