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| kdfoust |
May 27 2003, 10:16 PM
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 694 Joined: 2-January 03 From: Riverside Member No.: 71 Region Association: Southern California |
So I'm already hemoraging money all over the suspension bits of my car. Why stop the bleeding so soon when there are so many parts to buy... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif)
When the car goes back together I'm lowering it as far as practical for an AX/street ride (my driveway may be the ultimate constraint). I've already experienced the near complete elimination of bump steer by installing washers under the steering rack so I never want to put up with bump steer again. So I'm looking at my options and see two. The first is to install a ERP bump steer kit (hit page down a couple of times to find it) so I can dial out the bump steer no matter where the ride height is set. The second option is to go to the Tangerine racing raised strut spindleswhich appear, looking at the digipic, to have the control arm bent to a corrected position to eliminate bump steer while resetting the ride height via the relocated spindle. I suppose the raised spindle also has the advantage of not using any of your suspension travel to achieve the lower chassis height. Whata ya think? The price is a wash. Anybody done both or one or the other to provide and comparison/comments? Oh this all assumes that the dreaded bump steer will show up with a vengance as I crank the car lower... Thanks, Kevin |
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| kdfoust |
May 30 2003, 10:51 AM
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That answer is why this board is the best thing going...makes a lot of sense!
The front RC can be found by (this is a question): projecting a line from the inside edge of the front tire through the a-arm pivot axis? The intersection formed by lines projected in similar fashion from each front tire->a-arm defines the front RC? The rear RC can be found by: ? The fact that the suspension pivots roughly perpendicular to the car CL makes rear roll center less intuitive to me. How does one define the rear RC? With those two definitions I'll be happy to measure my car and put some data into the thread. QUOTING from Hayden "The migration of the RC height will be more than the ride height change - by some significant factor. This means that in bump (same as lowering) the distance between the height of the Center of Gravity (CofG) and the front RC will increase, making the kinetic roll stiffness softer." That begins to explain shifts in a car's handling behavior; car understeers at low speeds then transitions to oversteer at higher speeds as the suspension gets compressed due to cornering/braking loads. Good stuff. Thanks, Kevin |
kdfoust Raised Strut Spindle vs ERP Bump Steer Kit May 27 2003, 10:16 PM
campbellcj I think these two things serve different purposes ... May 27 2003, 10:52 PM
Racer Chris Without raising the spindles there are two limitat... May 27 2003, 11:00 PM
Brad Roberts The raised strut is the hot ticket... BUT..BUT.. i... May 28 2003, 09:49 AM
kdfoust I'm a 4 lug guy. I don't have any plans t... May 28 2003, 01:47 PM
Brad Roberts He can do it (as well as others) Its a lot of work... May 28 2003, 02:38 PM
Gint How is the 4 lug strut different than a 5 lug for ... May 28 2003, 02:41 PM
Brad Roberts You cant raise the spindle on a 4cyl strut or a ea... May 28 2003, 02:45 PM
Brad Roberts Whatever he adds to the bottom (raise spindle) has... May 28 2003, 02:48 PM
Brad Roberts Nice Berber carpet Chris...LOL
B May 28 2003, 02:50 PM
Gint Got it. Now that I've asked the question I va... May 28 2003, 03:00 PM
Racer Chris
Brad Roberts Rich,
I could do that.. but its way cheaper to bu... May 29 2003, 10:25 AM
rdauenhauer Ok so this is getting a liittle OT, but please exc... May 29 2003, 10:36 AM
Gint I would think the torsion bars that would be remov... May 29 2003, 10:39 AM
Brad Roberts Yes to everything... but.. The largest torsion bar... May 29 2003, 10:39 AM
Brad Roberts Oh.. Rich.
We remove the torsion bars.. NOBODY ru... May 29 2003, 10:41 AM
TMorr I believe the factory ran Torsion bars and coil sp... May 29 2003, 02:09 PM
rdauenhauer Ok makes sense. but what holds the A arms in plac... May 29 2003, 02:46 PM
Mueller The bushing/bearing assemblies hold the A-arms to ... May 29 2003, 03:05 PM
kdfoust
TMorr Kevin,
Without having the specific RC heights and... May 30 2003, 09:24 AM
914Timo
TMorr Kevin,
Be careful not to make too large an assump... May 30 2003, 01:54 PM
Brad Roberts I have all this info "somewhere".. I havent had to... May 30 2003, 03:28 PM
jridder Calculating roll centers - For the rear semi-trail... May 30 2003, 08:30 PM
TMorr I found this good graphic illustration of how lowe... Jun 2 2003, 09:27 AM![]() ![]() |
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