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> Plan of Action?, Bondo Floor?
stoneman30hotmail
post Sep 10 2022, 05:07 PM
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Hello all, I'm a bit new to this. I had one of these in my 20's and and did a little stick welding fixing the hell hole.
I'm not sure how to approach this. Do I need to strip all this and go on rotisserie? Or is it feasible to cut and patch this from the top

The driver side floor is bondo (or something). I'm not sure what is holding the seat mounts. The passenger side seat mount right is about broken loose. There's also holes past the transverse strut into the battery area.

The longs seem ok from what I can see. Can I get the sill covers off without taking the fenders off? I was worried I drill out all the rivets to figure one hidden under the fender.

Any good tool recommendations for rust removal?

I was thinking maybe I can get away with with https://www.restoration-design.com/store/product/PP345BR and a https://www.restoration-design.com/store/PR...duct_Code=PP325 and the seat brakets and patch the holes.


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post Sep 21 2022, 09:36 AM
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Like Mark said, only the owner can decide what to do with the car. I also agree that we need to provide honest advice on what is involved getting a car like this back on the road. I also think we need to provide an honest assessment of the possibilities. When I started my project, I got similar advice to scrap the car, I'll spend way more than it will be worth, etc. All of that was good advice but ignored my motives for doing the project. It wasn't to start driving the car as fast as possible. It was to learn new things and develop new skills bringing something back that others had written off as dead. It's the same motivation we build model cars and planes instead of just buying already assembled toys.

Anybody can buy a nice 914 if they have deep enough pockets, fewer can build one. If learning and skill building is the motivation, the labor is not even $1, in fact, it is less than $0 because the time spent working on the project is reward rather than expense. I'd much rather spend my time building or restoring things in my shop than watching grown men run a ball back and forth on a fake lawn. Why don't we charge ourselves for the time cost of doing that? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) I get immense satisfaction showing pictures of my car when the project began to people oohing and aweing over the car and seeing their jaws drop. And yeah, I'm kind of smug about it (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif)

I don't know the OP but get the impression that getting the car to driving condition as quickly and cheaply as possible was the objective. If that is the case, I would suggest finding a different car. This is not the one for that. I have my doubts that moving forward on this is the right decision, but only they can decide. I just want to make sure they have a complete picture of proven possibilities that gets lost in the negativity. Who knows? Maybe they are one of the rare wackos who wants the challenge. Just don't say the car will not be worth what they spend fixing it up. That is proven false. Insert "probably" before the "not," and I would fully agree.
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stoneman30hotmail   Plan of Action?   Sep 10 2022, 05:07 PM
Superhawk996   Read these before you do anything. You have more ...   Sep 10 2022, 05:21 PM
SirAndy   You have more project on your hands than you think...   Sep 10 2022, 05:57 PM
bbrock   You have more project on your hands than you thin...   Sep 10 2022, 10:30 PM
Mikey914   If you choose to do this sure you have a brace in ...   Sep 10 2022, 06:10 PM
930cabman   Welcome aboard and it looks as though you are jump...   Sep 10 2022, 06:32 PM
mepstein   :wttc: The rust you see is always the tip of the ...   Sep 10 2022, 07:53 PM
bkrantz   Jump (gently) up and down on the right side and wa...   Sep 10 2022, 08:28 PM
Rand   Jump (gently) up and down on the right side and w...   Sep 20 2022, 08:13 PM
rjames   Sawzall, dremel, plasma cutter... sorry, being ...   Sep 10 2022, 10:29 PM
emerygt350   Just sayin guys, that barn find I took pictures of...   Sep 11 2022, 04:37 AM
stoneman30hotmail   Just sayin guys, that barn find I took pictures o...   Sep 11 2022, 08:24 AM
Cairo94507   :wttc: Don't rush. Take the time to read a lo...   Sep 11 2022, 06:42 AM
brant   10 years ago that was a parts car Nothing a few t...   Sep 11 2022, 06:59 AM
930cabman   10 years ago that was a parts car Nothing a few ...   Sep 11 2022, 08:03 AM
mepstein   Both cars need a lot of work. A lot of the Porsche...   Sep 11 2022, 09:47 AM
Superhawk996   Both cars need a lot of work. A lot of the Porsch...   Sep 11 2022, 10:08 AM
mepstein   Both cars need a lot of work. A lot of the Porsc...   Sep 11 2022, 10:21 AM
stoneman30hotmail   There’s just something to be said for the eter...   Sep 12 2022, 09:05 AM
Superhawk996   There’s just something to be said for the ete...   Sep 12 2022, 09:50 AM
nathanxnathan   I believe there's some rust on the inside of ...   Sep 12 2022, 12:30 PM
porschetub   [quote name='stoneman30hotmail' post='3028981' da...   Sep 12 2022, 10:57 PM
bbrock   There’s just something to be said for the ete...   Sep 12 2022, 01:40 PM
stoneman30hotmail   Get the chassis supported and secure, then spend...   Sep 12 2022, 03:17 PM
Wadesbrain   Ok so I think this sounds basic but it needs to be...   Sep 11 2022, 05:17 PM
930cabman   Ok so I think this sounds basic but it needs to b...   Sep 11 2022, 05:30 PM
SirAndy   Also check the "914 Info" at the top o...   Sep 11 2022, 06:00 PM
bbrock   Ok so I think this sounds basic but it needs to b...   Sep 11 2022, 09:46 PM
930cabman   [quote name='Wadesbrain' post='3028821' date='Sep...   Sep 12 2022, 12:27 PM
Superhawk996   There is no “zero” datum specified that I’m ...   Sep 11 2022, 06:03 PM
Eric_Shea   :agree:   Sep 11 2022, 06:39 PM
mepstein   Because fixing cosmetic issues would be a waste of...   Sep 12 2022, 09:19 AM
TRS63   I see it like the two previous poster..this car ha...   Sep 12 2022, 11:43 AM
friethmiller   Stoneman, You are most welcome to take a look at ...   Sep 12 2022, 02:05 PM
Wadesbrain   Stoneman, You are most welcome to take a look at...   Sep 14 2022, 08:20 PM
stoneman30hotmail   Stoneman, You are most welcome to take a look at...   Sep 21 2022, 05:41 PM
friethmiller   That does look like a nice way to handle it with...   Oct 27 2022, 07:50 AM
brant   many of us... have lived through the same senario....   Sep 12 2022, 02:52 PM
stoneman30hotmail   Wow guys, thanks for all the attention and referen...   Sep 18 2022, 05:47 PM
nathanxnathan   I've seen pictures where there is an inside p...   Sep 19 2022, 02:10 PM
bbrock   It's not going to be cheap or easy, you'r...   Sep 19 2022, 05:27 PM
bbrock   I believe the octagonal rotisserie is both a suppo...   Sep 18 2022, 06:25 PM
Cairo94507   Do it right or don't do it at all. The worst ...   Sep 19 2022, 04:18 PM
Superhawk996   Any pictures of what’s going on with the other s...   Sep 19 2022, 05:28 PM
stoneman30hotmail   Any pictures of what’s going on with the other ...   Sep 20 2022, 04:05 PM
rjames   Not a chance. :)   Sep 20 2022, 04:30 PM
stoneman30hotmail   Not a chance. :) Anybody tracked costs? I w...   Sep 20 2022, 06:20 PM
worn   Been there myself. My latest has taken two years ...   Sep 20 2022, 04:39 PM
mepstein   I don’t think you can restore a rusty car for ...   Sep 20 2022, 06:45 PM
Superhawk996   If you’re doing this to make money - you’re do...   Sep 20 2022, 07:47 PM
bbrock   We need to stop saying you can't restore these...   Sep 20 2022, 10:46 PM
Superhawk996   We don't consider our time costs for going f...   Sep 20 2022, 11:01 PM
930cabman   We don't consider our time costs for going ...   Sep 21 2022, 05:00 AM
brant   Bringing dollar signs into this discussion… ? ...   Sep 21 2022, 07:24 AM
mepstein   The "labor of love" will be different fo...   Sep 21 2022, 07:41 AM
Front yard mechanic   Set up a bunch of cameras run it off a tall cliff ...   Sep 21 2022, 07:43 AM
Superhawk996   Set up a bunch of cameras run it off a tall cliff...   Sep 21 2022, 08:29 AM
rhodyguy   Was this the first 914 you looked at? Does it even...   Sep 21 2022, 09:28 AM
bbrock   Like Mark said, only the owner can decide what to ...   Sep 21 2022, 09:36 AM
friethmiller   :agree: Yes!! Well said. My '74 LE ...   Sep 21 2022, 09:51 AM
stoneman30hotmail   Poking at this slowly. I cut away more so I could...   Oct 26 2022, 07:09 PM
bbrock   Is there something to do short of using a whole n...   Oct 27 2022, 04:34 PM
mepstein   Suspension console jig http://www.914world.com/bb...   Oct 27 2022, 10:28 AM
930cabman   Suspension console jig http://www.914world.com/b...   Oct 27 2022, 04:47 PM
DaveB   This is what I picked-up: I found too many sus...   Oct 27 2022, 12:32 PM
stoneman30hotmail   Exposed a bit more. So I'm wondering how...   Oct 29 2022, 11:35 AM
bbrock   So I'm wondering how much of this I can reuse...   Oct 29 2022, 04:03 PM
dlee6204   Exposed a bit more. Whatever I can haul off f...   Oct 29 2022, 12:58 PM
dlee6204   You are on a budget so you'll have to decide ...   Oct 29 2022, 04:06 PM
stoneman30hotmail   Thanks for the replies. Do you mean this stuff...   Nov 2 2022, 07:09 PM
bbrock   Do you mean this stuff for rust remove? https://...   Nov 2 2022, 10:44 PM
Superhawk996   This piece of sheet metal from Auto Atlanta is wha...   Nov 2 2022, 07:28 PM
stoneman30hotmail   This piece of sheet metal from Auto Atlanta is wh...   Nov 4 2022, 05:27 PM
Superhawk996   This piece of sheet metal from Auto Atlanta is w...   Nov 5 2022, 07:46 AM
stoneman30hotmail   I'm glad to see my thread made it through the ...   Jan 1 2023, 02:45 PM
Dlee6205   Looks like you lost 1/16"? Maybe a smidge mo...   Jan 1 2023, 06:14 PM
Geezer914   I would stop working on this car and look for a ca...   Jan 1 2023, 08:01 PM
stoneman30hotmail   I would stop working on this car and look for a c...   Jan 2 2023, 11:21 AM
rjames   If I was going to spend 30K on a car I would be ...   Jan 2 2023, 12:16 PM
76-914   Glad to see you navigated past the nay sayers. Des...   Jan 1 2023, 09:17 PM
Superhawk996   Your door braces are way to weak to be of any use ...   Jan 2 2023, 01:05 AM
stoneman30hotmail   Your door braces are way to weak to be of any use...   Jan 2 2023, 11:22 AM
bbrock   Your door braces are way to weak to be of any us...   Jan 2 2023, 12:23 PM
stoneman30hotmail   [quote name='stoneman30hotmail' post='3048791' da...   Jan 3 2023, 04:42 PM
Superhawk996   I think the issue wasn't so much the turnbu...   Jan 3 2023, 08:03 PM
Superhawk996   I would think welding in the wheel house shouldn...   Jan 3 2023, 08:18 PM
stoneman30hotmail   [quote name='stoneman30hotmail' post='3049028' da...   Jan 4 2023, 05:20 PM
bbrock   I think the issue wasn't so much the turnbuc...   Jan 4 2023, 08:55 AM
Superhawk996   I haven’t seen this thread in a while. Great jo...   Jan 2 2023, 01:23 AM
rhodyguy   Do not trust those ratchet style jack stands. DO N...   Jan 2 2023, 08:27 AM
Front yard mechanic   I think you got this :driving-girl:   Jan 3 2023, 05:51 PM
Superhawk996   I’ll apologise because my diagram is over simpli...   Jan 4 2023, 11:13 PM
jaredmcginness   Keep fighting the good fight! I think you are ...   Jan 6 2023, 06:43 AM
stoneman30hotmail   Keep fighting the good fight! I think you are...   Jan 10 2023, 07:23 PM
stoneman30hotmail   Time for some updates. I por-15 'd the insid...   Mar 30 2023, 06:18 PM
rjames   Time for some updates. I por-15 'd the insi...   Mar 31 2023, 10:36 AM
stoneman30hotmail   Time for some updates. I por-15 'd the ins...   Apr 3 2023, 03:47 PM
stoneman30hotmail   Someone said "don't trust the jack stands...   May 3 2023, 04:27 AM
mepstein   I would have made the base wider and triangulated ...   May 3 2023, 05:29 AM
Superhawk996   :agree: You’ve got a recipe for disaster brewi...   May 3 2023, 07:22 AM
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