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| bbrock |
Sep 24 2022, 09:02 AM
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This might get some knickers in a quibbley but I'm trying to figure out had the 914 design team's vote to badge the car been honored, which badge would have come on my car. Porsche Classics shows the orange badge used through MY 1973 and the red badge beginning in MY 1974, but there is also this graphic showing the switched occurred sometime in '73.
(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/images.summitmedia-digital.com-20845-1664031721.1.jpg) The best I can tell, the switch might have happened with the introduction of the 911 G-series in MY 1974 but I've had a hard time finding when actual production began. I did find this article saying it started in August, 1973 which might be a good clue. That may be all I need to know, but does anyone have anything to add? |
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| scottsilvertt |
Sep 25 2022, 10:45 AM
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scottsilvertt ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 74 Joined: 17-May 06 From: South East USA Member No.: 6,019 Region Association: South East States |
Enjoying the comments,
You could buy a 911, in 1974, still with orange bars. And then this question, why, in the first place, did 914s leave the factory with no hood badge? Did factory not want them? Did designers not want them? Did they try to make the car less expensive? Who came along and said “no badge”? Any other reason? That seems to be a big decision to not put any mark on the front of a car. They spent $ (marks) to put the Porsche letters across the grill, (mine in 74 were plastic) I wonder if prototypes had a badge? |
| bbrock |
Sep 25 2022, 06:42 PM
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914 Guru ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5,269 Joined: 17-February 17 From: Montana Member No.: 20,845 Region Association: Rocky Mountains
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Enjoying the comments, You could buy a 911, in 1974, still with orange bars. And then this question, why, in the first place, did 914s leave the factory with no hood badge? Did factory not want them? Did designers not want them? Did they try to make the car less expensive? Who came along and said “no badge”? Any other reason? That seems to be a big decision to not put any mark on the front of a car. They spent $ (marks) to put the Porsche letters across the grill, (mine in 74 were plastic) I wonder if prototypes had a badge? We actually have a little insight into this from the 50 Years Porsche 914 book. This has rekindled my interest in the badge. From the book: QUOTE "In addition, as well as this lettering on on the rear, it was decided to investigate whether the use of the Porsche crest on the front hood could be approved. This proposal already appeared as a recommendation on the agenda of the 24th program committee meeting on 20 March [1970] and was now agreed. This solution did not last long however, as the two models were released to the world as VW-Porsche 914 and VW-Porsche 914/6 shortly before the IAA." I'm not sure who made up the "program committee" but assume the design team was well represented. So it seems those most intimately involved with the 914 determined it was worthy of the company crest, but the marketing lunkheads who I hold mostly responsible for the poor treatment the 914 has gotten for decades were already selling the car as VW-Porsche. I've tried to image how that committee meeting discussion went and would like to think it was something like this: "The matter of approving model nine-one-four to receive the Porsche crest is now open for discussion. Any comments?" The sound of a shoe pounding on a desk reverberates through the room. "Nein, nein, nein!! Nein crest. The car has a Volkswagen engine. It is not a Porsche. Not a real one anyway." This must have been the origin of NARP and caused quite a stir in a group sitting in the back corner of the room. A spokesman for the group responded. "Shut the fuchs up Franz. You don't know what your are talking about. We developed that engine. It is a great engine. It is worthy of Porsche." Now the room goes silent as people shift uncomfortably in their seats and look nervously around. They remember what happened the last time the committee voted against the engine design team. For a month, sandwiches and desserts from staff lunch sacks stored in the break room refrigerator went missing and were replaced with moldy cheese, shriveled sausage, and in one case, a handful of raisins so dry they may have actually been rat turds. Nobody wanted to relive that nightmare so the vote was unanimous. Yes, even Franz had to admit resistance was not `worth facing the wrath of a vengeful Type IV team. Of course none of it mattered because the marketing team who stored their lunches in a different refrigerator, in a different break room, in a different town were not intimidated by the Type IV mobsters as they had come to be known, so continued with their bumbling plan to secure the badgeless 914's legacy as one of ridicule and controversy. |
bbrock SOT: When did the hood badge change? Sep 24 2022, 09:02 AM
Superhawk996 Doesn’t matter since 914’s aren’t supposed t... Sep 24 2022, 10:50 AM
mgphoto I use a sticker, to save weight.
Sep 24 2022, 11:12 AM
bbrock Thanks both, but that wasn't the question. :st... Sep 24 2022, 12:03 PM
mgphoto
Thanks both, but that wasn't the question. :s... Sep 24 2022, 12:30 PM
Lucky9146
Thanks both, but that wasn't the question. :... Sep 24 2022, 12:42 PM
Graydingo I think you answered your own question. Orange bad... Sep 24 2022, 12:34 PM
Cairo94507 Yup, if my car had a crest on the hood, it would b... Sep 24 2022, 01:37 PM
rgalla9146
Yup, if my car had a crest on the hood, it would ... Sep 25 2022, 01:12 AM
JamesM
had the 914 design team's vote to badge the c... Sep 24 2022, 01:41 PM
Van B I think the devil is in the details here. From wh... Sep 24 2022, 06:10 PM
wonkipop
I think the devil is in the details here. From w... Sep 25 2022, 03:54 AM
scallyk9 When I bought my '74 Can-Am LE, built in Febru... Sep 24 2022, 08:09 PM
bbrock Yeah, this all makes sense to me. I think if the ... Sep 24 2022, 10:49 PM
wonkipop @bbrock
inspired by my sunday afternoon driving ... Sep 25 2022, 03:48 AM
Van B Sorry wonki, but you did put the idea in my head l... Sep 25 2022, 06:31 AM
Cairo94507 Without measuring the distance, I believe they loo... Sep 25 2022, 06:52 AM
mb911
Without measuring the distance, I believe they lo... Sep 25 2022, 07:23 AM
Cairo94507 That's the spot I would install one. :beer2: Sep 25 2022, 08:41 AM
wonkipop
Enjoying the comments,
You could buy a 911, in... Sep 26 2022, 04:06 AM
bbrock
i hate to be a contrarian.
but it was never actu... Sep 26 2022, 09:30 AM
wonkipop
i hate to be a contrarian.
but it was never act... Sep 27 2022, 09:16 AM
bbrock
i suggest the reason that a 914 did not end up wi... Sep 27 2022, 05:43 PM
wonkipop
i suggest the reason that a 914 did not end up w... Sep 28 2022, 02:27 AM
Ansbacher I'm sure the Porsche bean counters made certai... Sep 25 2022, 11:30 AM
Cairo94507 White over Yellow Karmen Ghia :trophy: :wub: Sep 26 2022, 07:16 AM
Superhawk996 Badge - no badge. You can rationalize it anyway y... Sep 26 2022, 10:04 AM
bbrock
Badge - no badge. You can rationalize it anyway ... Sep 26 2022, 10:44 AM
Superhawk996
Badge - no badge. You can rationalize it anyway... Sep 26 2022, 11:02 AM

bbrock
Everyone gets one deviation, I’ll take the radi... Sep 26 2022, 12:44 PM
wonkipop
Badge - no badge. You can rationalize it anyway... Sep 27 2022, 08:57 AM
SKL1 Long article in the latest issue of 000 explaining... Sep 26 2022, 11:07 AM
Van B You guys are all great, but I gotta say, the NARP ... Sep 26 2022, 04:04 PM
Superhawk996
You guys are all great, but . . .
You take us ... Sep 26 2022, 06:14 PM

Van B
You guys are all great, but . . .
You take us... Sep 26 2022, 06:53 PM
bbrock
The real lesson here is that the family fight th... Sep 26 2022, 06:31 PM
Front yard mechanic I have the crest,the crested shift knob radio,rear... Sep 26 2022, 04:13 PM
Superhawk996
I have the crest,the crested shift knob radio,rea... Sep 26 2022, 07:10 PM
Front yard mechanic :lol4: Sep 26 2022, 07:59 PM
bbrock @wonkipop Don't fret. There is a badge for y... Sep 28 2022, 07:47 AM
wonkipop
[b]@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?s... Sep 29 2022, 12:01 AM
bbrock
where do i get it?
(when i have imbibed of a few... Sep 29 2022, 08:10 AM
wonkipop
where do i get it?
(when i have imbibed of a fe... Sep 29 2022, 04:36 PM
Van B Oooohhh man! No excuses now Wonki!! Sep 28 2022, 11:28 AM
ClayPerrine Y'all are :deadhorse:
If you want a Porsche... Sep 28 2022, 11:56 AM
Superhawk996
Nobody here will ridicule you one way or another... Sep 28 2022, 12:33 PM
KELTY360
Nobody here will ridicule you one way or anothe... Sep 28 2022, 06:25 PM
bbrock
[quote name='Superhawk996' post='3032933' date='S... Sep 28 2022, 07:33 PM
ClayPerrine
[quote name='Superhawk996' post='3032933' date='... Sep 29 2022, 04:55 AM
bbrock
[quote name='bbrock' post='3033028' date='Sep 28 ... Sep 29 2022, 08:11 AM
914sgofast2 Would it be acceptable to add a VW badge to the fr... Sep 28 2022, 12:42 PM
ClayPerrine
Would it be acceptable to add a VW badge to the f... Sep 28 2022, 03:08 PM
bbrock
Would it be acceptable to add a VW badge to the f... Sep 28 2022, 03:40 PM

Superhawk996
Would it be acceptable to add a VW badge to the ... Sep 28 2022, 08:27 PM
wonkipop
Would it be acceptable to add a VW badge to the f... Sep 28 2022, 11:56 PM
Superhawk996
i knew i had seen it somewhere in the dim distan... Sep 29 2022, 12:25 PM
Superhawk996 I might add a prancing Moose sticker / bage. Tha... Sep 28 2022, 12:53 PM
Van B No joke, I saw a bus that someone put a G-series f... Sep 28 2022, 09:07 PM
wonkipop
No joke, I saw a bus that someone put a G-series ... Sep 29 2022, 04:10 AM
bbrock
No joke, I saw a bus that someone put a G-series... Sep 29 2022, 12:16 PM
RARE 6
[quote name='wonkipop' post='3033087' date='Sep 2... Sep 29 2022, 02:04 PM
wonkipop
[quote name='bbrock' post='3033191' date='Sep 29 ... Sep 29 2022, 04:43 PM
bbrock
there was a VW type 3 that used to compete in tou... Sep 29 2022, 04:58 PM
wonkipop
there was a VW type 3 that used to compete in to... Sep 29 2022, 05:43 PM
Superhawk996 @bbrock
“ However, the Swiss brand claims it c... Sep 29 2022, 12:41 PM
bbrock
[b]@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?s... Sep 29 2022, 01:05 PM
Superhawk996 If you’re going to run a successful scam the 1st... Sep 29 2022, 02:08 PM
bbrock
If you’re going to run a successful scam the 1s... Sep 29 2022, 03:10 PM
Superhawk996
[quote name='Superhawk996' post='3033209' date='S... Sep 29 2022, 07:17 PM
Superhawk996 Hilarious - here’s their “proof”. Fast char... Sep 29 2022, 08:05 PM
bbrock We've already drifted way off topic so what th... Sep 29 2022, 08:53 PM
Superhawk996
I just don't see why you think this is so far... Sep 29 2022, 11:34 PM
bbrock
I just don't see why you think this is so fa... Sep 30 2022, 08:11 AM
Superhawk996
Where you see plodding progress and hype, I see s... Sep 30 2022, 08:58 AM
mgphoto So, did the European 914’s all have the Wolfsbur... Sep 30 2022, 08:34 AM
Superhawk996
So, did the European 914’s all have the Wolfsbu... Sep 30 2022, 09:04 AM
mgphoto
[quote name='mgphoto' post='3033394' date='Sep 30... Sep 30 2022, 10:12 AM
bbrock
[quote name='mgphoto' post='3033394' date='Sep 3... Sep 30 2022, 12:59 PM
mgphoto
[quote name='mgphoto' post='3033412' date='Sep 30... Sep 30 2022, 02:44 PM
wonkipop @bbrock
"Good stuff. What fascinates me... Sep 30 2022, 03:03 PM
scottsilvertt Is Hans Lapine a part of this group?
His dad was T... Sep 30 2022, 05:32 PM
bbrock
Is Hans Lapine a part of this group?
His dad was ... Sep 30 2022, 06:24 PM
wonkipop
Is Hans Lapine a part of this group?
His dad was... Oct 1 2022, 03:23 AM
ClayPerrine What really blows my mind about the whole badge de... Oct 1 2022, 06:29 AM
Superhawk996
What really blows my mind about the whole badge d... Oct 1 2022, 11:08 AM
wonkipop
What really blows my mind about the whole badge ... Oct 1 2022, 04:55 PM
bbrock
corporate jockeying is probably the wrong word ho... Oct 1 2022, 10:01 AM
wonkipop @[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showu... Oct 1 2022, 04:30 PM
bbrock
one thing VW had done, on their own, independentl... Oct 1 2022, 07:11 PM
wonkipop
[quote name='wonkipop' post='3033670' date='Oct 1... Oct 3 2022, 05:10 AM
ClayPerrine
no the bosch EFI had nothing to do with Piech. z... Oct 3 2022, 05:49 AM
mgphoto Looking at it from a different angle, the 914 was ... Oct 1 2022, 08:41 PM
Van B Gentlemen, I have been on vacation in Houston this... Oct 3 2022, 10:06 AM
bbrock
Gentlemen, I have been on vacation in Houston thi... Oct 3 2022, 11:17 AM
Superhawk996
Gentlemen, I have been on vacation in Houston th... Oct 3 2022, 02:25 PM
mgphoto I think it was 1974 Porsche bought the entire 914 ... Oct 3 2022, 10:44 AM
KSCarrera And then there's Volkswagen's EA128 protot... Oct 3 2022, 11:22 AM
mgphoto
And then there's Volkswagen's EA128 proto... Oct 3 2022, 01:49 PM![]() ![]() |
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