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> Clutch Advice, Reuse or Replace?
mzapisek
post Oct 9 2022, 08:43 AM
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I have very low mile original 1.7 (30K). I recently installed a 4 post lift and have begun doing all the 50 year service updates (SS fuel lines, shift bushings, engine refresh etc.). I am certainly a novice mechanic at best. The information on this board most definitely helps close the knowledge gap and encourages me to self perform tasks I would otherwise be unsure of. While inspecting the flywheel, clutch and pressure plate they appear to be in very good condition (no grooves or obvious signs of wear) just some slight discoloration.

Should I reuse or replace? I did purchase a new rear main seal but I do not see any signs of a leak. From other info I have read on this board the newer seals are/maybe somewhat substandard. While I welcome the opportunity to fix everything I can while the engine is out and on the stand don’t want to perform unnecessary work or look for problems that don’t exist.

Would appreciate some advice.

Thanks.


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post Oct 9 2022, 03:25 PM
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Clutch job on a 914 is easier than on pretty much any other car… But it’s still a pretty big job.

I’m with the others… If it was my car, I would change out clutch, pressure plate and throw out bearing. Maybe add the pilot bearing, too.

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post Oct 9 2022, 04:30 PM
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For the clutch disc, the Clymer manual recommends replacement if the thickness of the lining is less than 9mm (0.36"). Haynes recommends measuring the rivet depth, and if less than 0.6mm (0.025") then it's time to replace. Otherwise, if no obvious cracks or the lining being oil soaked, then it's OK to reuse. I'd imagine the factory manual has it's recommendations also.
For the pressure plate, look for signs of overheating, cracks, gouges. Haynes recommends using a straight edge on the face to look for visible warping. If the fingers (held on by rivets) are tight and not badly worn where the release bearing contacts, and everything else checks out OK, it should be fine to reuse.
Almost everyone agrees to change the pilot bearing since it is fairly inexpensive and if there's any doubt about the release bearing, change it also. Look at those plastic insulating blocks on the release bearing too and replace if they look like there's any wear or cracks. Oh, and make sure to look at the flywheel face for gouges and uneven wear.
I usually follow the "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" philosophy. It's really up to you. Quick search looks like around 200-300 bucks for a new pressure plate and disc. If that seems like peanuts too you, then sure why not replace it while you're in there. If you feel like that's money that could better be spent elsewhere, the parts look good and you don't mind jumping back in maybe in 10, 20, 30 thousand miles (depends on how hard you drive it) then personally I see no reason the parts can't be reused.
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post Oct 11 2022, 08:21 AM
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QUOTE(lesorubcheek @ Oct 9 2022, 06:30 PM) *

For the clutch disc, the Clymer manual recommends replacement if the thickness of the lining is less than 9mm (0.36"). Haynes recommends measuring the rivet depth, and if less than 0.6mm (0.025") then it's time to replace. Otherwise, if no obvious cracks or the lining being oil soaked, then it's OK to reuse. I'd imagine the factory manual has it's recommendations also.


Strangely I can’t seem to find a spec in disc thickness in the 914 factory manual (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)

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mzapisek   Clutch Advice   Oct 9 2022, 08:43 AM
FL000   It’s a lot of work to get to where you are at. C...   Oct 9 2022, 09:27 AM
Lockwodo   I have very low mile original 1.7 (30K). I recen...   Oct 9 2022, 09:51 AM
930cabman   Was it working properly prior to the teardown? If ...   Oct 9 2022, 09:59 AM
Ansbacher   You will kick yourself later on if you don't r...   Oct 9 2022, 10:26 AM
theer   Clutch job on a 914 is easier than on pretty much ...   Oct 9 2022, 03:25 PM
lesorubcheek   For the clutch disc, the Clymer manual recommends ...   Oct 9 2022, 04:30 PM
Superhawk996   For the clutch disc, the Clymer manual recommends...   Oct 11 2022, 08:21 AM
914Sixer   Since it is out do it right. Replace everything. ...   Oct 10 2022, 06:17 AM
mzapisek   Appreciate all the advice. I think I will keep th...   Oct 10 2022, 07:04 AM
Montreal914   Check this bushing too! Good luck with your pr...   Oct 10 2022, 08:07 AM
mgphoto   Do the fingernail test, on the metal surfaces, fly...   Oct 10 2022, 05:09 PM
windforfun   Why should you need a new clutch with only 30K mil...   Oct 10 2022, 06:12 PM
bbrock   Why should you need a new clutch with on 30K mile...   Oct 10 2022, 07:41 PM
wonkipop   Why should you need a new clutch with only 30K mi...   Oct 13 2022, 02:12 PM
bbrock   [b]@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?...   Oct 13 2022, 02:52 PM
wonkipop   [b]@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php...   Oct 13 2022, 03:57 PM
Mikey914   Welcome to "While I was there" this is t...   Oct 10 2022, 08:08 PM
TMM914   I am in for replacing the complete clutch setup.We...   Oct 10 2022, 08:12 PM
bbrock   Unless it rusts, I don't see how a clutch woul...   Oct 10 2022, 10:16 PM
mzapisek   My mindset is whatever I do will be the last time ...   Oct 11 2022, 07:12 AM
Superhawk996   FWIW that is not an original 4 spring OEM clutch d...   Oct 11 2022, 07:42 AM
Front yard mechanic   I say reuse it. We all need more exercise :cheer:   Oct 11 2022, 07:49 AM
914Sixer   Sachs quit making 4 spring along time ago. Everyb...   Oct 11 2022, 08:29 AM
bbrock   Sachs quit making 4 spring along time ago. Every...   Oct 11 2022, 08:32 AM
Superhawk996   Clutch lining thickness from 911 Factory Manual - ...   Oct 11 2022, 08:46 AM
mzapisek   There are some unknown facts about my car. The pa...   Oct 11 2022, 10:53 AM
Root_Werks   If the clutch truly has only 30k miles on it and y...   Oct 11 2022, 01:32 PM
iankarr   Given what it takes to get to the point you’re a...   Oct 12 2022, 06:16 AM
Superhawk996   I’m going to go back to the original premise of ...   Oct 12 2022, 08:28 AM
iankarr   I’m going to go back to the original premise of...   Oct 12 2022, 07:53 PM
Superhawk996   As for re-using the clutch disk, is there a down...   Oct 12 2022, 09:44 PM
bbrock   I'm not trying to be a jerk, but I'd reall...   Oct 12 2022, 08:32 AM
rjames   If the flywheel and pressure plate were imbalanced...   Oct 13 2022, 02:16 PM
bbrock   If the flywheel and pressure plate were imbalance...   Oct 13 2022, 02:59 PM


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