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> Plan of Action?, Bondo Floor?
stoneman30hotmail
post Sep 10 2022, 05:07 PM
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Hello all, I'm a bit new to this. I had one of these in my 20's and and did a little stick welding fixing the hell hole.
I'm not sure how to approach this. Do I need to strip all this and go on rotisserie? Or is it feasible to cut and patch this from the top

The driver side floor is bondo (or something). I'm not sure what is holding the seat mounts. The passenger side seat mount right is about broken loose. There's also holes past the transverse strut into the battery area.

The longs seem ok from what I can see. Can I get the sill covers off without taking the fenders off? I was worried I drill out all the rivets to figure one hidden under the fender.

Any good tool recommendations for rust removal?

I was thinking maybe I can get away with with https://www.restoration-design.com/store/product/PP345BR and a https://www.restoration-design.com/store/PR...duct_Code=PP325 and the seat brakets and patch the holes.


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post Oct 27 2022, 12:32 PM
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This is what I picked-up:

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I found too many suspect parts and overall WTF moments as I dug into the car. I am looking at a 2 to 3 year ground-up build to get this the way I want it. I have similar rust to what you have. My first step was to stripped it down to this:

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I've got the chassis and body parts at a chemical dip plant. In preparation for the build I have most of the replacement sheetmetal, rebuilt or new suspension, rebuilt transmission and will finish the engine rebuild next month. I still need to build jigs and fixtures. There are sheetmetal parts that I can't get and will need to make. I also went back and took some additional courses for MIG and TIG welding. With all the parts and material I have about $23K invested. $6.2K of that is suspension and brakes. I've probably got another $25K to go to get it completed. That's with me doing bodywork, engine build, wiring, final assembly and having a shop do the exterior paint. I could buy a good well sorted out 914 for $25K to $30K. Then I'd want to tweek the suspension, drop the engine and get more power, might as well rebuild the transmission while I'm there, Brembos might fit, lets convert to a 5 lug, etc. Might as well start with a clean slate up front.

You can be frugal if you have the equipment to do the job. You can learn almost everything needed. Good advice and help on this forum. Just don't use the 914 for practice. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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stoneman30hotmail   Plan of Action?   Sep 10 2022, 05:07 PM
Superhawk996   Read these before you do anything. You have more ...   Sep 10 2022, 05:21 PM
SirAndy   You have more project on your hands than you think...   Sep 10 2022, 05:57 PM
bbrock   You have more project on your hands than you thin...   Sep 10 2022, 10:30 PM
Mikey914   If you choose to do this sure you have a brace in ...   Sep 10 2022, 06:10 PM
930cabman   Welcome aboard and it looks as though you are jump...   Sep 10 2022, 06:32 PM
mepstein   :wttc: The rust you see is always the tip of the ...   Sep 10 2022, 07:53 PM
bkrantz   Jump (gently) up and down on the right side and wa...   Sep 10 2022, 08:28 PM
Rand   Jump (gently) up and down on the right side and w...   Sep 20 2022, 08:13 PM
rjames   Sawzall, dremel, plasma cutter... sorry, being ...   Sep 10 2022, 10:29 PM
emerygt350   Just sayin guys, that barn find I took pictures of...   Sep 11 2022, 04:37 AM
stoneman30hotmail   Just sayin guys, that barn find I took pictures o...   Sep 11 2022, 08:24 AM
Cairo94507   :wttc: Don't rush. Take the time to read a lo...   Sep 11 2022, 06:42 AM
brant   10 years ago that was a parts car Nothing a few t...   Sep 11 2022, 06:59 AM
930cabman   10 years ago that was a parts car Nothing a few ...   Sep 11 2022, 08:03 AM
mepstein   Both cars need a lot of work. A lot of the Porsche...   Sep 11 2022, 09:47 AM
Superhawk996   Both cars need a lot of work. A lot of the Porsch...   Sep 11 2022, 10:08 AM
mepstein   Both cars need a lot of work. A lot of the Porsc...   Sep 11 2022, 10:21 AM
stoneman30hotmail   There’s just something to be said for the eter...   Sep 12 2022, 09:05 AM
Superhawk996   There’s just something to be said for the ete...   Sep 12 2022, 09:50 AM
nathanxnathan   I believe there's some rust on the inside of ...   Sep 12 2022, 12:30 PM
porschetub   [quote name='stoneman30hotmail' post='3028981' da...   Sep 12 2022, 10:57 PM
bbrock   There’s just something to be said for the ete...   Sep 12 2022, 01:40 PM
stoneman30hotmail   Get the chassis supported and secure, then spend...   Sep 12 2022, 03:17 PM
Wadesbrain   Ok so I think this sounds basic but it needs to be...   Sep 11 2022, 05:17 PM
930cabman   Ok so I think this sounds basic but it needs to b...   Sep 11 2022, 05:30 PM
SirAndy   Also check the "914 Info" at the top o...   Sep 11 2022, 06:00 PM
bbrock   Ok so I think this sounds basic but it needs to b...   Sep 11 2022, 09:46 PM
930cabman   [quote name='Wadesbrain' post='3028821' date='Sep...   Sep 12 2022, 12:27 PM
Superhawk996   There is no “zero” datum specified that I’m ...   Sep 11 2022, 06:03 PM
Eric_Shea   :agree:   Sep 11 2022, 06:39 PM
mepstein   Because fixing cosmetic issues would be a waste of...   Sep 12 2022, 09:19 AM
TRS63   I see it like the two previous poster..this car ha...   Sep 12 2022, 11:43 AM
friethmiller   Stoneman, You are most welcome to take a look at ...   Sep 12 2022, 02:05 PM
Wadesbrain   Stoneman, You are most welcome to take a look at...   Sep 14 2022, 08:20 PM
stoneman30hotmail   Stoneman, You are most welcome to take a look at...   Sep 21 2022, 05:41 PM
friethmiller   That does look like a nice way to handle it with...   Oct 27 2022, 07:50 AM
brant   many of us... have lived through the same senario....   Sep 12 2022, 02:52 PM
stoneman30hotmail   Wow guys, thanks for all the attention and referen...   Sep 18 2022, 05:47 PM
nathanxnathan   I've seen pictures where there is an inside p...   Sep 19 2022, 02:10 PM
bbrock   It's not going to be cheap or easy, you'r...   Sep 19 2022, 05:27 PM
bbrock   I believe the octagonal rotisserie is both a suppo...   Sep 18 2022, 06:25 PM
Cairo94507   Do it right or don't do it at all. The worst ...   Sep 19 2022, 04:18 PM
Superhawk996   Any pictures of what’s going on with the other s...   Sep 19 2022, 05:28 PM
stoneman30hotmail   Any pictures of what’s going on with the other ...   Sep 20 2022, 04:05 PM
rjames   Not a chance. :)   Sep 20 2022, 04:30 PM
stoneman30hotmail   Not a chance. :) Anybody tracked costs? I w...   Sep 20 2022, 06:20 PM
worn   Been there myself. My latest has taken two years ...   Sep 20 2022, 04:39 PM
mepstein   I don’t think you can restore a rusty car for ...   Sep 20 2022, 06:45 PM
Superhawk996   If you’re doing this to make money - you’re do...   Sep 20 2022, 07:47 PM
bbrock   We need to stop saying you can't restore these...   Sep 20 2022, 10:46 PM
Superhawk996   We don't consider our time costs for going f...   Sep 20 2022, 11:01 PM
930cabman   We don't consider our time costs for going ...   Sep 21 2022, 05:00 AM
brant   Bringing dollar signs into this discussion… ? ...   Sep 21 2022, 07:24 AM
mepstein   The "labor of love" will be different fo...   Sep 21 2022, 07:41 AM
Front yard mechanic   Set up a bunch of cameras run it off a tall cliff ...   Sep 21 2022, 07:43 AM
Superhawk996   Set up a bunch of cameras run it off a tall cliff...   Sep 21 2022, 08:29 AM
rhodyguy   Was this the first 914 you looked at? Does it even...   Sep 21 2022, 09:28 AM
bbrock   Like Mark said, only the owner can decide what to ...   Sep 21 2022, 09:36 AM
friethmiller   :agree: Yes!! Well said. My '74 LE ...   Sep 21 2022, 09:51 AM
stoneman30hotmail   Poking at this slowly. I cut away more so I could...   Oct 26 2022, 07:09 PM
bbrock   Is there something to do short of using a whole n...   Oct 27 2022, 04:34 PM
mepstein   Suspension console jig http://www.914world.com/bb...   Oct 27 2022, 10:28 AM
930cabman   Suspension console jig http://www.914world.com/b...   Oct 27 2022, 04:47 PM
DaveB   This is what I picked-up: I found too many sus...   Oct 27 2022, 12:32 PM
stoneman30hotmail   Exposed a bit more. So I'm wondering how...   Oct 29 2022, 11:35 AM
bbrock   So I'm wondering how much of this I can reuse...   Oct 29 2022, 04:03 PM
dlee6204   Exposed a bit more. Whatever I can haul off f...   Oct 29 2022, 12:58 PM
dlee6204   You are on a budget so you'll have to decide ...   Oct 29 2022, 04:06 PM
stoneman30hotmail   Thanks for the replies. Do you mean this stuff...   Nov 2 2022, 07:09 PM
bbrock   Do you mean this stuff for rust remove? https://...   Nov 2 2022, 10:44 PM
Superhawk996   This piece of sheet metal from Auto Atlanta is wha...   Nov 2 2022, 07:28 PM
stoneman30hotmail   This piece of sheet metal from Auto Atlanta is wh...   Nov 4 2022, 05:27 PM
Superhawk996   This piece of sheet metal from Auto Atlanta is w...   Nov 5 2022, 07:46 AM
stoneman30hotmail   I'm glad to see my thread made it through the ...   Jan 1 2023, 02:45 PM
Dlee6205   Looks like you lost 1/16"? Maybe a smidge mo...   Jan 1 2023, 06:14 PM
Geezer914   I would stop working on this car and look for a ca...   Jan 1 2023, 08:01 PM
stoneman30hotmail   I would stop working on this car and look for a c...   Jan 2 2023, 11:21 AM
rjames   If I was going to spend 30K on a car I would be ...   Jan 2 2023, 12:16 PM
76-914   Glad to see you navigated past the nay sayers. Des...   Jan 1 2023, 09:17 PM
Superhawk996   Your door braces are way to weak to be of any use ...   Jan 2 2023, 01:05 AM
stoneman30hotmail   Your door braces are way to weak to be of any use...   Jan 2 2023, 11:22 AM
bbrock   Your door braces are way to weak to be of any us...   Jan 2 2023, 12:23 PM
stoneman30hotmail   [quote name='stoneman30hotmail' post='3048791' da...   Jan 3 2023, 04:42 PM
Superhawk996   I think the issue wasn't so much the turnbu...   Jan 3 2023, 08:03 PM
Superhawk996   I would think welding in the wheel house shouldn...   Jan 3 2023, 08:18 PM
stoneman30hotmail   [quote name='stoneman30hotmail' post='3049028' da...   Jan 4 2023, 05:20 PM
bbrock   I think the issue wasn't so much the turnbuc...   Jan 4 2023, 08:55 AM
Superhawk996   I haven’t seen this thread in a while. Great jo...   Jan 2 2023, 01:23 AM
rhodyguy   Do not trust those ratchet style jack stands. DO N...   Jan 2 2023, 08:27 AM
Front yard mechanic   I think you got this :driving-girl:   Jan 3 2023, 05:51 PM
Superhawk996   I’ll apologise because my diagram is over simpli...   Jan 4 2023, 11:13 PM
jaredmcginness   Keep fighting the good fight! I think you are ...   Jan 6 2023, 06:43 AM
stoneman30hotmail   Keep fighting the good fight! I think you are...   Jan 10 2023, 07:23 PM
stoneman30hotmail   Time for some updates. I por-15 'd the insid...   Mar 30 2023, 06:18 PM
rjames   Time for some updates. I por-15 'd the insi...   Mar 31 2023, 10:36 AM
stoneman30hotmail   Time for some updates. I por-15 'd the ins...   Apr 3 2023, 03:47 PM
stoneman30hotmail   Someone said "don't trust the jack stands...   May 3 2023, 04:27 AM
mepstein   I would have made the base wider and triangulated ...   May 3 2023, 05:29 AM
Superhawk996   :agree: You’ve got a recipe for disaster brewi...   May 3 2023, 07:22 AM
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