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> Mig or tig, Which would you choose?
r_towle
post Nov 28 2022, 08:58 PM
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Lots of sheet metal body welding, flares, patching, several cars.
I did use a mig for years, upgraded to gas mig.
My son took it.

So, I’m getting another welder.
I still have a gasless mig, and a scratch start tig
Neither are very good.

So, which would you choose? Why?
Willing to take the time and learn.

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post Nov 29 2022, 01:55 AM
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@nathanxnathan

Try this TIG technique on dual layer panels:

It’s often the air trapped between the panels rapidly expanding that spits out of the weld puddle causing the electrode contamination - not the corrosion contamination between the panels.

Try pre heating the zone around the weld with the torch and light current before attacking. This heats the air between the panels and gives it time to expand. Then go in hot quickly to establish a puddle, then feed filler quickly and heavily. Sometimes I would need to downsize filler rod to avoid having too much filler going into the puddle at one time and sucking the heat out of the puddle or resulting in too much weld build up.

It sort of mimics the MIG process. Not fool proof but it usually worked for me. TIG welded all of my 914 chassis sheet metal replacement. Sometimes up to 3 layers.
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QUOTE(Superhawk996 @ Nov 28 2022, 11:55 PM) *

@nathanxnathan

Try this TIG technique on dual layer panels:

It’s often the air trapped between the panels rapidly expanding that spits out of the weld puddle causing the electrode contamination - not the corrosion contamination between the panels.

Try pre heating the zone around the weld with the torch and light current before attacking. This heats the air between the panels and gives it time to expand. Then go in hot quickly to establish a puddle, then feed filler quickly and heavily. Sometimes I would need to downsize filler rod to avoid having too much filler going into the puddle at one time and sucking the heat out of the puddle or resulting in too much weld build up.

It sort of mimics the MIG process. Not fool proof but it usually worked for me. TIG welded all of my 914 chassis sheet metal replacement. Sometimes up to 3 layers.

@Superhawk996

I will give it another try when I work on the other side this weekend. I do preheat quite a bit with just a little bit of pedal. I tried to fill the lower hole that goes through both layers. I drilled it slightly larger to get the rust from the edges, and backed it with copper. The layers are tight there, very little space between. I then heat the center of the copper for about 8–10 seconds as the fill rod will go toward the heat. I have found that if you can get the smallest bit of weld to stick to the piece and then weld to that... it's like there's a threshold of dirtiness that you can't go past or it all flairs up. I've managed it in the past, but just as often I need 1 more second to finish the weld and bam, it all blows up and there's a huge blob of weld stuck to your electrode. I went through a whole electrode just grinding off blobs trying to fill 2 holes there before I brought out the mig.
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r_towle   Mig or tig   Nov 28 2022, 08:58 PM
Unobtanium-inc   My Miller MIG died a few years ago and I upgraded ...   Nov 28 2022, 09:26 PM
Van B   You had flux core wire then, just to confirm? Pre...   Nov 28 2022, 09:34 PM
Brett W   Oxy Acetylene. It will take some time to learn th...   Nov 28 2022, 10:07 PM
mb911   Oxy Acetylene. It will take some time to learn t...   Nov 29 2022, 04:07 PM
Brett W   Ugh on the shielding gas and cup recommendations...   Nov 30 2022, 01:33 PM
mb911   Ugh on the shielding gas and cup recommendation...   Nov 30 2022, 02:21 PM
Rand   You know mig and tig are different animals. So thi...   Nov 28 2022, 10:12 PM
Rand   Respect to Brett. My dad made me weld my first exh...   Nov 28 2022, 10:14 PM
Brett W   Respect to Brett. My dad made me weld my first ex...   Nov 28 2022, 10:29 PM
Rand   Respect to Brett. My dad made me weld my first e...   Nov 28 2022, 10:32 PM
Brett W   [quote name='Brett W' post='3041594' date='Nov 28...   Nov 28 2022, 10:36 PM
Superhawk996   Duplicate   Nov 29 2022, 12:18 AM
Superhawk996   After trying Gas welding, I have to say, its muc...   Nov 29 2022, 12:49 AM
targa72e   I have all three. 90% of time for simple repair wo...   Nov 28 2022, 11:25 PM
nathanxnathan   I think where/what you need to weld is the decidin...   Nov 29 2022, 01:29 AM
Superhawk996   @nathanxnathan Try this TIG technique on dual la...   Nov 29 2022, 01:55 AM
nathanxnathan   @[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?show...   Nov 29 2022, 12:22 PM
Superhawk996   @nathanxnathan I hear ya. :evilgrin: Even ...   Nov 29 2022, 12:46 PM
914_teener   [b]@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?s...   Nov 30 2022, 09:40 PM
Superhawk996   [b]@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?...   Dec 1 2022, 12:15 PM
Brett W   I hate trying to TIG dirty or questionable steel w...   Nov 29 2022, 01:02 PM
930cabman   If it is either/or, I would go for a Lincoln 140, ...   Nov 29 2022, 01:23 PM
Ishley   You can get a combo unit that does both. I mig we...   Nov 29 2022, 01:45 PM
r_towle   Thank you everyone! This has helped me by teac...   Nov 29 2022, 06:07 PM
scott_in_nh   Thank you everyone! This has helped me by tea...   Dec 1 2022, 08:16 AM
windforfun   Are there any modern adhesives available that are ...   Nov 30 2022, 09:21 PM
914_teener   Are there any modern adhesives available that are...   Nov 30 2022, 09:41 PM
Amphicar770   I have both Tig and Mig, I am terrible at both but...   Dec 1 2022, 10:58 AM
mb911   I have both Tig and Mig, I am terrible at both bu...   Dec 1 2022, 11:06 AM
Superhawk996   Yeah you do :headbanger:   Dec 1 2022, 12:11 PM


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