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| CCSmith58 |
Dec 3 2022, 12:20 AM
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Newbie ![]() Group: Members Posts: 12 Joined: 17-March 22 From: Southern California Member No.: 26,404 Region Association: Southern California
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Hello 914world… Just renewed my Membership !! Now looking to get my moneys worth...
I’m having a ’75 914 built into a 914-6. Maybe 10 or 20 years ago I might have tried to do (some of) it myself. Now I’m more a “pay the money, turn the key” guy. Here’s a “silly” question. Likely the first of many…. How does a 915 Transaxle work when converted to a mid engine application ?? Not looking for a “how to” just an overview for personal info. I’ve searched for articles, webpages and / or videos and don't find much. I find acknowledgements of the conversion but no detailed or even general description. I see the term “flipped ring and pinion”. Does the whole gear system run backwards ?? Does just the differential run backwards ?? How would a LSD work in a converted 915 ?? Are the available 916 Kits good ?? Etc... Any info or links to info would be appreciated !! |
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| JWest |
Dec 10 2022, 01:12 PM
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Shifter information: all 915 conversions that have ever been made use a 911/tail-shift style shifter with the ball cup and support bracket under the shifter.
Some 915 conversions are referred to as "side-shift" but the linkage is not designed to use the 914 side-shift type shifter. If you use the side-shift shifter with a 915, you will end up with the shift pattern flipped left-to-right. |
| rgalla9146 |
Dec 10 2022, 01:43 PM
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Shifter information: all 915 conversions that have ever been made use a 911/tail-shift style shifter with the ball cup and support bracket under the shifter. Some 915 conversions are referred to as "side-shift" but the linkage is not designed to use the 914 side-shift type shifter. If you use the side-shift shifter with a 915, you will end up with the shift pattern flipped left-to-right. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) The only experience I have with a 916 is my own but I realized early on that the reverse interlock on a 914 side shifter and the change of motion would not work with a 915. My trans is a '72. It's the only 915 that uses a stamped steel shift base that looks just like a 914 rear shifter.......but it is very different down below. The reverse lockout is on the opposite side and has two additional small springs. I was lucky to find one. I think the '73 and on 911 aluminum bases are the correct choice for any 915/916 install. OR, your choice of quality aftermarket 915 replacements. Rory |
| Steve |
Dec 10 2022, 03:03 PM
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Shifter information: all 915 conversions that have ever been made use a 911/tail-shift style shifter with the ball cup and support bracket under the shifter. Some 915 conversions are referred to as "side-shift" but the linkage is not designed to use the 914 side-shift type shifter. If you use the side-shift shifter with a 915, you will end up with the shift pattern flipped left-to-right. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) The only experience I have with a 916 is my own but I realized early on that the reverse interlock on a 914 side shifter and the change of motion would not work with a 915. My trans is a '72. It's the only 915 that uses a stamped steel shift base that looks just like a 914 rear shifter.......but it is very different down below. The reverse lockout is on the opposite side and has two additional small springs. I was lucky to find one. I think the '73 and on 911 aluminum bases are the correct choice for any 915/916 install. OR, your choice of quality aftermarket 915 replacements. Rory I tried them all desperately trying to figure out why it wouldn’t shift right before taking the car to Patrick Motorsports. The 916’s and other period correct GT’s with a 915 gearbox all have this one year 1972 shifter, since that is the year they came out. It looks like a 901 shifter with the reverse lockout on the other side. I still have one in my collection. I sold the Wevo and kept the 915 rennshift that JWest mentioned. The 915 rennshift is much more precise and with the stock short throw, I have zero issues with the 5th reverse lockout. The rennshift and Wevo is spring loaded to the 3rd and 4th gate, but the Rennshift also has a shorter left and right neutral. Literally when shifting from 2nd to 3rd all I do is push up on the Rennshift and it automatically goes into 3rd like butter. The stock 915 shifter and one off 1972 915 shifter is only spring loaded for reverse and 5th. The rest of the gears you have to fish for. Notice goofy one off part numbers 18,19 and 20 5th reverse lockout. It does work and is period correct, but doesn’t shift like a modern Rennshift. |
CCSmith58 915 transaxle question / info Dec 3 2022, 12:20 AM
Cairo94507 Welcome. Contact Patrick Motorsports in Phoenix, ... Dec 3 2022, 07:28 AM
mepstein
Welcome. Contact Patrick Motorsports in Phoenix,... Dec 3 2022, 07:34 AM
Steve :agree:
I’m running the setup in my 914. Works... Dec 3 2022, 08:30 AM
stownsen914 If you'd like to do a 915 in a 914, you might ... Dec 3 2022, 08:37 AM
Steve PMS sells all the conversion parts and shift linka... Dec 3 2022, 08:57 AM
Cairo94507 I just re-read the entire linked thread....really ... Dec 3 2022, 09:53 AM
sixnotfour Ring and Pinion Ratios are Motor specific.. early ... Dec 3 2022, 10:58 AM
troth PMB was just advertising a conversion package on F... Dec 3 2022, 11:27 AM
brant Short answer about the 915
In the 911 that it was... Dec 3 2022, 12:45 PM
echocanyons Eric and the PMB team just finished the 916 conver... Dec 4 2022, 11:16 AM
Cairo94507 I am so very jealous. PM sent. :beer2: Dec 4 2022, 11:36 AM
rgalla9146 Did the conversion myself except for R&P set u... Dec 4 2022, 12:41 PM
stownsen914 The thing I don't love about 915 conversions f... Dec 5 2022, 10:06 PM
Steve :confused:
No different than a 911…. Dec 5 2022, 11:40 PM
Dave_Darling Some basics, here--
The "ring and pinion... Dec 6 2022, 03:59 AM
mepstein Martin Bott has the 916 conversion parts for sale.... Dec 6 2022, 06:34 AM
T.Rick6 CCSmith58 Question for ya, what size engine / HP ... Dec 6 2022, 06:47 AM
Cairo94507 I would spend time researching Joe Cogbill before ... Dec 6 2022, 08:23 AM
mepstein
I would spend time researching Joe Cogbill before... Dec 6 2022, 09:10 AM
Steve
I would spend time researching Joe Cogbill befor... Dec 6 2022, 09:31 AM
brant To the OP
You need to check also the gearing you w... Dec 6 2022, 10:11 AM
slivel The question of hp/torque limits on the 901 transm... Dec 6 2022, 10:39 AM
brant
I also drained and replaced the gear oil every s... Dec 6 2022, 10:51 AM
slivel One other advantage of the 901 transmission is tha... Dec 6 2022, 10:48 AM
Cairo94507 @slivel - Excellent feedback re your 901 experien... Dec 6 2022, 11:00 AM
CCSmith58 GrEaT input here !! Thanks !! :... Dec 7 2022, 08:01 PM
Steve
GrEaT input here !! Thanks !! ... Dec 8 2022, 06:55 AM
Dave_Darling
So, How do you "flip" the ring gear ??... Dec 11 2022, 04:49 PM
CCSmith58
So, How do you "flip" the ring gear ?... Dec 14 2022, 12:51 PM
dr914@autoatlanta.com expensive and not worth doing. We have done severa... Dec 8 2022, 10:36 AM
slivel Good point from Steve:
"I switched to the lat... Dec 8 2022, 11:33 AM
eric9144 I have a WEVO based 915 done by Patrick Motorsport... Dec 8 2022, 11:45 AM
mepstein I was just talking about this with 914Dave today. ... Dec 8 2022, 05:17 PM
Steve
I was just talking about this with 914Dave today.... Dec 9 2022, 07:55 AM
mepstein
[quote name='mepstein' post='3043990' date='Dec 8... Dec 9 2022, 08:32 AM
stownsen914 If you've ever messed with a custom shifter se... Dec 10 2022, 11:01 AM
Eric_Shea Kelly’s is amazing. With a spherical Firewall bu... Dec 8 2022, 07:59 PM
mepstein
Shifter information: all 915 conversions that hav... Dec 10 2022, 01:21 PM
live free & drive Here is a good thread from 914Dave about his ... Dec 10 2022, 05:41 PM
Steve
Here is a good thread from 914Dave about his ... Dec 10 2022, 06:55 PM
mepstein
Here is a good thread from 914Dave about his ... Dec 10 2022, 07:38 PM
rgalla9146
[quote name='live free & drive' post='3044459... Dec 10 2022, 08:16 PM
Steve
[quote name='live free & drive' post='3044459... Dec 11 2022, 01:08 PM
6er lots of info Dec 12 2022, 05:50 PM
914dave I cant believe its been ten years since i did the ... Dec 13 2022, 01:00 PM![]() ![]() |
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