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| bkrantz |
Jan 21 2023, 08:12 PM
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914 Guru ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 8,646 Joined: 3-August 19 From: SW Colorado Member No.: 23,343 Region Association: Rocky Mountains
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I have a Shadek pump adapted for Type 4 (which I know some people don't like). The first time I installed the pump cover I did not use a gasket, just case-sealant. For the second time around, should I use a gasket under the cover?
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| Superhawk996 |
Jan 22 2023, 11:56 AM
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914 Guru ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 7,767 Joined: 25-August 18 From: Woods of N. Idaho Member No.: 22,428 Region Association: Galt's Gulch
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As above - I’m a believer in gaskets for something that has high pressure oil behind it.
I know there are those in the VW community that say no gasket. My understanding is that tribal knowledge largely came from people having used aftermarket gaskets that were way too thick which caused low oil pressure due to too much bypass due to the thick gaskets. The correct gasket is about 0.003” thick. If you lap the oil pump case so that you have no end play on the gears - you’ll gain 0.003” of end play and proper bypass with a gasket installed. If you already have .003” end play of the gears without a gasket, adding a 0.003” gasket will double the end play. Even at 0.006” end play it won’t be terrible for oil pressure but isn’t optimal. The problem occurs with some of the aftermarket (or home made) gaskets that are more like 0.010” thick which leads to way too much oil bypass. Hope that helps make a educated decision on which is right for you. |
bkrantz One more oil pump question: gasket or not Jan 21 2023, 08:12 PM
Geezer914 Make sure cover is perfectly flat. Use a gasket, ... Jan 22 2023, 06:07 AM
930cabman
I have a Shadek pump adapted for Type 4 (which I ... Jan 22 2023, 07:53 AM
bkrantz Thanks. I did lap the cover, which was not flat b... Jan 22 2023, 08:35 PM
Geezer914 Gene Berg's book How to hot rod vw engines tel... Jan 23 2023, 03:58 AM
bkrantz Let me check my understanding. Optimum gear clear... Jan 23 2023, 08:15 PM
930cabman
Let me check my understanding. Optimum gear clea... Jan 24 2023, 05:54 AM
Superhawk996 In my opinion, that is right on the cusp.
Desir... Jan 24 2023, 08:25 AM
930cabman
In my opinion, that is right on the cusp.
Desi... Jan 24 2023, 10:38 AM
bkrantz I got out my micrometer, and remeasured the gasket... Jan 25 2023, 08:38 PM
bkrantz With a moderate amount of pressure, I got a thick... Jan 25 2023, 08:44 PM
930cabman
With a moderate amount of pressure, I got a thic... Jan 26 2023, 06:00 AM
ChrisFoley That gasket looks pretty sturdy, more like ones I ... Jan 26 2023, 05:39 AM
Superhawk996
That gasket looks pretty sturdy, more like ones I... Jan 26 2023, 07:52 AM
rudedude There are plenty of sources for gasket material in... Jan 26 2023, 08:59 AM
Superhawk996
There are plenty of sources for gasket material i... Jan 26 2023, 10:51 AM
ChrisFoley Now that I'm in the shop I measured what I hav... Jan 26 2023, 11:03 AM
Superhawk996
Now that I'm in the shop I measured what I ha... Jan 26 2023, 01:16 PM
dr914@autoatlanta.com aftermarket oil pumps for the 914 are hard to seal Jan 26 2023, 11:20 AM
930cabman Lets hope Bob can get er fixed Jan 26 2023, 02:41 PM
bkrantz Hey, thanks everyone. I also looked for gasket ma... Jan 26 2023, 08:19 PM![]() ![]() |
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