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Jim C
post Jan 31 2023, 10:50 AM
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post Jan 31 2023, 07:29 PM
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Well, there are major challenges with hydrogen that will have to be overcome and unfortunately, we are in a race against time. See for example:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zklo4Z1SqkE
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Well, there are major challenges with hydrogen that will have to be overcome and unfortunately, we are in a race against time. See for example:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zklo4Z1SqkE


its not essentially all that different to LPG.
the pressures are higher, yes. quite a bit higher.
but as far as i know toyota have already solved that design problem in terms of very high pressure fuel lines and fuel tanks. the tank is carbon fibre.

as per LPG the engine is essentially actually still a petrol engine design.
its really just the injectors, throttle body, fuel lines and tank.
cold start would be an issue as per LPG but probably the tech is all sorted on that front.

in terms of infrastructure you don't transport the hydrogen.
you make it on site at the gas station itself.
with electricity.
thats where the major investment is.
but it has benefits in that you can rebuild gas stations as hydrogen plants.
the equipment involved is not large in terms of square metres.
and you can in a country like australia run the plant off solar pv cells.
but i'd have to find out more on electrical load to make hydrogen versus production capability on site for it to be self sustaining or off grid.
but theoretically that bit is every bit as green as an electric car.

its already being discussed very seriously in australia.
and its happening on the ground in queensland, one of australia's states.
both govt. public transport buses, mining industry bus fleets and private operator bus fleets.

https://www.australianmining.com.au/news/hy...or-bowen-basin/

it will happen here.

i think electric cars will dominate in urban areas where you can arrange for convenient charging which takes extended time.
but heavy transport and country areas we are going to see hydrogen.

both require big efforts in infrastructure change.

i foresee multi storey carpark type buildings for charging cars in high density urban areas without off street car parking. there is a lot of that in australia.
and i see gas stations transitioning with LPG being replaced by on site hydrogen manufacture and continueing to sell petroleum fuels during a phase out changeover period.


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