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So contemplating doing the suspension next year and want to accumulate parts. Knowing that vintage wants you to stay true to period what is the max we can do for suspension goodies? Lets call it SVRA rules as they seem to be the strictest....
Bushings, strut inserts, sways, torsion bars, etc. What are you guys willing to.share on setup? I will be running a 2.4 ltr. |
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...and all this rules blah blah blah is why I run with vintage/historics groups that don't give a damn. This is supposed to be a fun demonstration activity, not a re-enactment of the 24 hours of Daytona from 1973!
Arguing over whether a tie-bar is compliant to half-a-century-old rulesset? Seriously? I get enough of that rules argumentatation with SCCA stuff. This is supposed to be fun, dammit! |
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914 Wizard ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 11,952 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Colorado Member No.: 47 Region Association: Rocky Mountains ![]() ![]() ![]() |
...and all this rules blah blah blah is why I run with vintage/historics groups that don't give a damn. This is supposed to be a fun demonstration activity, not a re-enactment of the 24 hours of Daytona from 1973! Arguing over whether a tie-bar is compliant to half-a-century-old rulesset? Seriously? I get enough of that rules argumentatation with SCCA stuff. This is supposed to be fun, dammit! Rules are the only tool that reduces/ contains cost In a different thread you mentioned that vintage racing is an arms race Not having rules causes that arms race Spec classes have the most strict rules and most predictable costs Seems like you can’t have it both ways |
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Rules are the only tool that reduces/ contains cost I don't want to get into arguments over this - we're all buddies here - but you immediately lost me on that first sentence. You simply cannot understand how wrong you are on that. I've been making, scrutineering, arguing, enforcing - and exploiting - racing regs for almost 35 years now, and all rules do is place a thin veneer of the appearance of cost containment. But it doesn't "contain costs". And cost in spec classes are wicked far from "predictable" (go try to find a nationally-competitive Spec Miata for less than a stoopit amount of money). Look, I'm not trying to be a penis. But you show me someplace where you think rules are cost-contained, and I'll show you examples of where that's decisively not true, without breaking the "spirit" of the rules (even though that's a silly term). https://tgadrivel.blogspot.com/2012/11/you-...-member-of.html I'm not "for" open regs, nor "against" the veneer of limited rules. But if you believe costs are "contained" by rules, you are misguided. As an example, here's an oldie but a goodie. If you make it through this podcast - and it's truly a good one, especially for cynical bastards like me - you'll probably come out thinking "well, they didn't write the rules well". And, to some degree, you might be right. But in reality, it's not how the rules are written, it's how the rules are accepted (note I intentionally did not say "interpreted"). Beware becoming popular... https://dinnerwithracers.com/episode-8-the-level-5-special/ No matter how well you write your rules, there's always someone out there with money to make you look like a fool. |
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