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| gnomefabtech |
Mar 13 2023, 06:25 PM
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 152 Joined: 27-December 22 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 27,063 Region Association: None |
Car came from Nevada but I can't tell if it was originally a California car. It still has injection but doesn't have a cat or smog pump. Doesn't look like it ever had either but I'm wondering since I'm going to try and register it here in California. Thanks in advance!!
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| JeffBowlsby |
Mar 15 2023, 08:58 PM
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914 Wiring Harnesses & Beekeeper ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 9,128 Joined: 7-January 03 From: San Ramon CA Member No.: 104 Region Association: None
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There must be some other CA law here that overlaps the 75-76 model years. In CA, 75 914s are exempt from bi-annual smog testing, but 76 model year cars are not exempt. This requirement is not exclusive to 914s.
Considering the effects in hindsight at this point in time, P should not have marketed the 76 cars. We’d be better off if they had just extended the production as 75 model year cars but maybe there were other laws that prevented that. No 76 model year 914s were sold to Europe. |
| wonkipop |
Mar 15 2023, 09:09 PM
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914 Guru ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5,271 Joined: 6-May 20 From: north antarctica Member No.: 24,231 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille
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There must be some other CA law here that overlaps the 75-76 model years. In CA, 75 914s are exempt from bi-annual smog testing, but 76 model year cars are not exempt. This requirement is not exclusive to 914s. Considering the effects in hindsight at this point in time, P should not have marketed the 76 cars. We’d be better off if they had just extended the production as 75 model year cars but maybe there were other laws that prevented that. No 76 model year 914s were sold to Europe. yes. but i guess no one was really thinking about a situation 50 years down the track with californian legislators. the truth is the cars should be exempt as historic vehicles. its not like there are thousands of them running around spewing out hydrocarbons. they only get driven on weekends for the most parts for anachronistic pleasure. its the legislators at present who are being plain silly? EDIT i should add that technically speaking california arrived at the jan 1 1976 deadline in MY 75. so technically speaking a 76 car is a repeat of the 75 car (any model) when it comes to california. and they stay that way pretty much until 1980. there are some small revisions to exhaust emissions but nothing much changes until 1980. the reason for that is the EPA know the next step is closed loop systems. that required O2 sensors and there were none until Bosch finally cracked them in late 70s and we could get there - feedback systems allowed them to go the next step in emissions reductions. so really if they are letting you drive a 75 "un-monitored and un-smogged" in california they should be letting you drive anything pretty much from 75 to 80. thats how i understand it. so its a strange boundary for california to pick. its only the rest of the USA where a 75 does not equal a 76MY. 76 MY or post jan 1 1976 where the cat becomes mandatory. and its only really the 76 914 for rest of USA that is exploiting the loophole to be manufactured and sold when it was. yet it seems the rest of the USA doesn't give 2 F#$%s so to speak about a 76 50 years later. ironic. |
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Mar 15 2023, 09:21 PM
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If you live in CA DO NOT purchase a 76 914 I am going through hell to get mine smog. I would find another year 914 but I have owned mine since the 80s.
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| wonkipop |
Mar 15 2023, 10:07 PM
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If you live in CA DO NOT purchase a 76 914 I am going through hell to get mine smog. I would find another year 914 but I have owned mine since the 80s. so how does that work then. if it was originally a california car its got to stay californian conforming for 76? but if its not originally a californian car then now, 50 years later, you can bring a 49 state car in and so long as its still 49 state car conforming it only has to conform to that, not california standards of 76? forgive me for asking as a dumb aussie, but i did go through a similar trauma 30+ years ago bring my 914 back from the USA into AUS. and it was pretty nuts and a very petty process. which was an utter joke given that AUS design rules of 74 were a long long way behind the USA. fortunately one of the guys in the state registration authority who knew his stuff and wasn't just a petty idiot stepped in. |
gnomefabtech 1976 Is it a 49 state or Cali car? Mar 13 2023, 06:25 PM
JeffBowlsby All 75s and 76s should have a smog pump and air in... Mar 13 2023, 06:43 PM
rgalla9146 A 1976 California car will have a EGR lamp on the ... Mar 13 2023, 07:24 PM
Type 47
A 1976 California car will have a EGR lamp on the... Mar 14 2023, 06:10 PM
gnomefabtech Thanks. I'll be able to look at the car more ... Mar 13 2023, 08:27 PM
L-Jet914 You can also check the VECI label (vehicle emissio... Mar 13 2023, 08:29 PM
Chris914n6 Writing myself a note to look at my vin sticker fo... Mar 14 2023, 08:34 PM
wonkipop is that true that only california cars had cats in... Mar 14 2023, 08:50 PM
JeffBowlsby All 75-76 CA-model 914s required cats.
https://bo... Mar 14 2023, 09:09 PM
wonkipop
All 75-76 CA-model 914s required cats.
https://b... Mar 14 2023, 10:02 PM
JeffBowlsby Got proof or is that speculation? We’ve heard th... Mar 14 2023, 10:18 PM
wonkipop
Got proof or is that speculation? We’ve heard t... Mar 15 2023, 12:29 AM
type47fan
Got proof or is that speculation? We’ve heard t... Mar 15 2023, 12:53 AM
wonkipop @[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showu... Mar 15 2023, 02:20 PM
wonkipop righteo mr. b @[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/... Mar 15 2023, 04:59 PM
JeffBowlsby Awesome man. That is a really thorough explanatio... Mar 15 2023, 07:27 PM
wonkipop
Awesome man. That is a really thorough explanati... Mar 15 2023, 08:01 PM
wonkipop
Awesome man. That is a really thorough explanati... Mar 15 2023, 08:15 PM
gnomefabtech Thanks for all the feedback and information!
... Mar 15 2023, 09:27 PM
wonkipop @JeffBowlsby and others unfortunate to own 76 in... Mar 16 2023, 06:03 PM
gnomefabtech
If you live in CA DO NOT purchase a 76 914 I am g... Mar 16 2023, 07:24 PM
JORACER#40
[quote name='JORACER#40' post='3065410' date='Mar... Mar 16 2023, 08:29 PM
wonkipop
[quote name='JORACER#40' post='3065410' date='Ma... Mar 18 2023, 06:28 PM
gnomefabtech Well I finally got the car in my possession and it... Mar 18 2023, 07:28 PM
wonkipop
Well I finally got the car in my possession and i... Mar 18 2023, 07:46 PM
wonkipop i'm not sure mr b. @JeffBowlsby has one of t... Mar 18 2023, 07:51 PM
wonkipop re vin stickers and manufacturer's plates.
@... Mar 18 2023, 08:07 PM
JeffBowlsby The 76 plate omission is known but you highlighted... Mar 18 2023, 08:57 PM
wonkipop
The 76 plate omission is known but you highlighte... Mar 18 2023, 09:52 PM
L-Jet914 @wonkipop I see you figured out how to navigate t... Mar 18 2023, 09:00 PM
wonkipop
[b]@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?s... Mar 18 2023, 09:28 PM
wonkipop i've been thinking about this problem for the ... Mar 18 2023, 09:27 PM
wonkipop @[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showu... Mar 19 2023, 02:23 PM
wonkipop @[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showu... Mar 19 2023, 03:07 PM
JORACER#40 With 914 World I have access to a lot of help and ... Mar 19 2023, 08:29 PM
Dave_Darling A bit of recent-ish California smog history:
Abou... Mar 19 2023, 08:12 PM
wonkipop
A bit of recent-ish California smog history:
Abo... Mar 20 2023, 03:08 AM
technicalninja Wow!
Wonki is Sherlock Holmes...
I can give a... Mar 19 2023, 09:00 PM
wonkipop
Wow!
Wonki is Sherlock Holmes...
I can give ... Mar 20 2023, 03:27 AM
Chris914n6
The air pump was utilized to add additional oxyge... Mar 23 2023, 04:38 PM
Dave_Darling The air pump was added to trucks before cats were ... Mar 24 2023, 02:40 AM
wonkipop
The air pump was added to trucks before cats were... Mar 24 2023, 12:54 PM
Chris914n6
68 912 is pre smog mate!
Sniffer test starte... Mar 24 2023, 01:55 PM

wonkipop
68 912 is pre smog mate!
Sniffer test start... Mar 24 2023, 05:59 PM
Dave_Darling
68 912 is pre smog mate!
Nope, not at the t... Mar 25 2023, 03:32 PM
wonkipop
68 912 is pre smog mate!
Nope, not at the ... Mar 25 2023, 04:07 PM
L-Jet914 The secondary air injection pump was added to help... Mar 19 2023, 09:24 PM
wonkipop
The secondary air injection pump was added to hel... Mar 20 2023, 03:20 AM
cgnj This is my anecdotal evidence regarding non-cat MY... Mar 20 2023, 09:36 AM
technicalninja All car still have the function of the secondary a... Mar 20 2023, 09:38 AM
L-Jet914
All car still have the function of the secondary ... Mar 21 2023, 07:42 PM
wonkipop @[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showu... Mar 22 2023, 05:11 PM
type47fan
[b]@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?s... Mar 23 2023, 12:39 PM
gnomefabtech Good tip. Thanks Mar 22 2023, 09:17 PM
914werke Oh but there is more....
There is a specific airbo... Mar 23 2023, 04:25 PM
wonkipop
Oh but there is more....
There is a specific airb... Mar 24 2023, 02:27 AM![]() ![]() |
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