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> Dropped intake seat, Made a mess.
TrailerParkBoy
post Mar 13 2023, 09:54 AM
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Intake seat let go. Ended up resting at angle to valve (odd location, usually they sit flat if loose?) which ended up taking a chunk from top of piston and scuffing cam lobe from pressure created. Much work ahead of us this weekend :-(Attached ImageAttached Image


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QUOTE(Superhawk996 @ Mar 15 2023, 09:35 AM) *

QUOTE(emerygt350 @ Mar 15 2023, 07:57 AM) *

Again, reminds me of the importance of AFR and CHT gauges in these cars.

Proper tuning will do.

I’m not against technology but setting timing properly and reading plugs goes a long way, doesn’t cost much, and doesn’t require exhaust mods and wiring.

If technology is wanted to prevent this, need to start looking at knock sensing. On almost every modern vehicle.

One of the problems with air cooled engines is all the noise they emit. Very easy for someone not familiar with knock / detonation to think it is a “normal” noise that air cooled engines make. Detonation kills engines fast.

What do the other pistons look like?

I disagree...
I can read plugs just fine and did high performance builds and tuning before simple O2s sensors were common. It was a PIA to really know just which air correction jets or emulsions tubes were needed until wide band O2 sensors came onto the scene.

Now days if you DON"T use a wide band you deserve whatever happens to your car
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I'm a wizard at this and I'll install a wide band BEFORE I put our 75 back on the road.
Wide band is far, far more important than a knock sensor.
I will not install a knock sensor until I install a complete stand alone digital ECU.
At this time I may install more than one knock sensor.

Knock sensor saves you when you have a failure. Wide band allows you to actually see the mixture in real time.
I've never had a cylinder head temp sensor on anything but they look seriously important and I will add this well before the digital ECU.
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TrailerParkBoy   Dropped intake seat   Mar 13 2023, 09:54 AM
Root_Werks   Oops! Yup, doesn't look good, probably di...   Mar 13 2023, 10:14 AM
dr914@autoatlanta.com   time for two new heads, these things are now 50 ye...   Mar 13 2023, 11:25 AM
r_towle   That looks wrong in a few ways. Valve,,, obvious T...   Mar 13 2023, 01:59 PM
brant   Looks like it could of been lean as mentioned Too...   Mar 13 2023, 02:54 PM
914sgofast2   The top of that piston looks really bad. Did you ...   Mar 13 2023, 03:42 PM
r_towle   It’s possible that detonation may have caused th...   Mar 13 2023, 04:08 PM
TrailerParkBoy   Thank you for the eye. Great questions. I’ll gra...   Mar 13 2023, 06:28 PM
r_towle   What budget do you have? I think AA makes new head...   Mar 13 2023, 06:37 PM
brant   I’m guessing it was not running right ?   Mar 13 2023, 07:04 PM
TrailerParkBoy   I’m guessing it was not running right ? Yes, ...   Mar 14 2023, 09:38 AM
Brett W   Be interesting to see if the rod bearings are beat...   Mar 13 2023, 08:30 PM
Superhawk996   The tops of the piston have all the hallmarks of ...   Mar 14 2023, 06:01 PM
gnomefabtech   Looks to me like that valve seat did a dance in th...   Mar 14 2023, 11:04 AM
gandalf_025   I had an intake valve seat drop in a Corvair Turbo...   Mar 14 2023, 11:15 AM
bludden   Happened to me a week and a half after I bought my...   Mar 14 2023, 06:20 PM
emerygt350   Again, reminds me of the importance of AFR and CHT...   Mar 15 2023, 06:57 AM
Superhawk996   Again, reminds me of the importance of AFR and CH...   Mar 15 2023, 08:35 AM
majkos1   engine original fuel injection or carb?   Mar 15 2023, 07:08 AM
technicalninja   Again, reminds me of the importance of AFR and C...   Mar 16 2023, 02:17 PM
rjames   Agree that a wideband sensor is important, especia...   Mar 16 2023, 03:38 PM
gnomefabtech   How do the other cylinders look? It's possibl...   Mar 16 2023, 10:08 PM
TrailerParkBoy   Pulled it apart and this is what we found, remembe...   Mar 20 2023, 10:17 AM
gnomefabtech   Dayum! That's a crazy failure.   Mar 20 2023, 07:18 PM
r_towle   Lean, detonation evidence on the other cylinder. W...   Mar 20 2023, 07:38 PM
Dave_Darling   That looks depressingly familiar. Could be caused...   Mar 20 2023, 10:05 PM


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