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> Is it the fule pump?, Spluttering and stalling!
chrispovoas
post Apr 8 2023, 04:00 AM
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Hi guys, Chris from New Zealand here....finally bought myself a 914! Shes a '73 2.0 with original FI. Had her about a week, after standing for 8 years.

Previous owner spent some time and money getting her on the road as part of the sale to me, but still a bit of work to be done! I'll try and attach a picture.

Took her for a shakedown run today for about 3 hours but then she started coughing and spluttering then stalled at about 60mph. Coasted to a halt, ignition on/off and away she went again for about half an hour.. Same thing again, ignition on/off and all was well for another 20 min.. This went on and on and the intervals between spluttering and stalling got more frequent until i just about made it home.

Felt like fuel rather than electrical... Could it be the fuel pump, or any other ideas?

I have a feeling I'll be using the forum quite a bit (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Nice to meet everyone!
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post Apr 8 2023, 08:07 AM
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QUOTE(chrispovoas @ Apr 8 2023, 05:00 AM) *

Hi guys, Chris from New Zealand here....finally bought myself a 914! Shes a '73 2.0 with original FI. Had her about a week, after standing for 8 years.


What you are describing sounds like vapor lock to me as well but any car that sits that long needs a full inspection of EVERYTHING.
The first inspection I'd do is gas tank internals. 8 years is a LONG time.
I don't know what New Zealand fuel is like but here in the USA the tank would be "poisoned" and require either replacement or massive cleaning. Our fuel goes south after 6 months. 8 years would turn it into varnish...

I've got a 75 that has been dormant since 1989.
It's been "standing" for 34 years!

I'm doing what I call a "resurrection" to it. It is the longest dead time car I've ever done.
You solve all the problems you can find and drive it until something else shows up.
You fix and drive again. Lather/rinse/repeat.

One of the initial tasks is compete replacement/ restoration of the fuel system.
My car still has the hard plastic fuel lines that Porsche used 50 years ago.
It's getting all new steel lines before returning to service.

A fire extinguisher will be a passenger for the first 500+ miles, even with the new fuel system in place.
The ONLY times I've ever needed an extinguisher is when one wasn't available.
If you have it with you, you will not have a fire that requires it.

The brake hydraulic system is another system that requires full rebuild after 50 years.
ALL rubber-based parts are being replaced before road use. 8 years non-use does not kill this system like it does a fuel system, but your system is 50 years old this year and no hydraulic system lasts half a century.

Beautiful car, love the color.
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QUOTE(chrispovoas @ Apr 8 2023, 05:00 AM) *

Hi guys, Chris from New Zealand here....finally bought myself a 914! Shes a '73 2.0 with original FI. Had her about a week, after standing for 8 years.


What you are describing sounds like vapor lock to me as well but any car that sits that long needs a full inspection of EVERYTHING.
The first inspection I'd do is gas tank internals. 8 years is a LONG time.
I don't know what New Zealand fuel is like but here in the USA the tank would be "poisoned" and require either replacement or massive cleaning. Our fuel goes south after 6 months. 8 years would turn it into varnish...

I've got a 75 that has been dormant since 1989.
It's been "standing" for 34 years!

I'm doing what I call a "resurrection" to it. It is the longest dead time car I've ever done.
You solve all the problems you can find and drive it until something else shows up.
You fix and drive again. Lather/rinse/repeat.

One of the initial tasks is compete replacement/ restoration of the fuel system.
My car still has the hard plastic fuel lines that Porsche used 50 years ago.
It's getting all new steel lines before returning to service.

A fire extinguisher will be a passenger for the first 500+ miles, even with the new fuel system in place.
The ONLY times I've ever needed an extinguisher is when one wasn't available.
If you have it with you, you will not have a fire that requires it.

The brake hydraulic system is another system that requires full rebuild after 50 years.
ALL rubber-based parts are being replaced before road use. 8 years non-use does not kill this system like it does a fuel system, but your system is 50 years old this year and no hydraulic system lasts half a century.

Beautiful car, love the color.


Thanks Technic!

The guy i bought it from did a lot of work to get it road worthy such as clutch, brakes, FI hoses etc etc etc, so it drives well apart form the spluttering and stalling.

Sounds like you've got a bigger job ahead of you than me!!!
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chrispovoas   Is it the fule pump?   Apr 8 2023, 04:00 AM
emerygt350   Welcome, and that's a pretty car! I would...   Apr 8 2023, 04:53 AM
chrispovoas   Welcome, and that's a pretty car! I woul...   Apr 8 2023, 05:42 AM
chrispovoas   Welcome, and that's a pretty car! I woul...   Apr 8 2023, 09:46 PM
StarBear   Congratulations and welcome to our community! ...   Apr 8 2023, 05:47 AM
chrispovoas   Congratulations and welcome to our community...   Apr 8 2023, 09:44 PM
BeatNavy   Beautiful car. Welcome to the World :beer2: Yo...   Apr 8 2023, 06:02 AM
chrispovoas   Beautiful car. Welcome to the World :beer2: Y...   Apr 8 2023, 09:48 PM
rfinegan   Trust you instincts. The Djet is not a very compli...   Apr 8 2023, 06:45 AM
chrispovoas   Trust you instincts. The Djet is not a very compl...   Apr 8 2023, 09:50 PM
emerygt350   the attachment point on the rail for the fuel pres...   Apr 8 2023, 07:07 AM
chrispovoas   the attachment point on the rail for the fuel pre...   Apr 8 2023, 09:57 PM
technicalninja   Hi guys, Chris from New Zealand here....finally b...   Apr 8 2023, 08:07 AM
chrispovoas   [quote name='chrispovoas' post='3070333' date='Ap...   Apr 8 2023, 10:04 PM
Olympic 914   Could be blockage of the screen in the fuel tank, ...   Apr 8 2023, 08:16 AM
porschetub   Hi guys, Chris from New Zealand here....finally b...   Apr 8 2023, 05:19 PM
chrispovoas   Hi guys, Chris from New Zealand here....finally ...   Apr 8 2023, 09:43 PM
porschetub   [quote name='porschetub' post='3070433' date='Apr...   Apr 9 2023, 02:49 PM
chrispovoas   [quote name='chrispovoas' post='3070479' date='Ap...   Apr 10 2023, 02:03 AM
chrispovoas   And thanks for your email re where to buy from Dea...   Apr 10 2023, 02:11 AM
chrispovoas   [quote name='chrispovoas' post='3070479' date='Ap...   Apr 16 2023, 01:40 AM
emerygt350   1400 is where it should idle at cold start. Let...   Apr 8 2023, 10:05 PM
chrispovoas   1400 is where it should idle at cold start. Le...   Apr 8 2023, 10:09 PM
emerygt350   At cold start (20 c) it should jump up to 12-1400 ...   Apr 8 2023, 10:14 PM
chrispovoas   At cold start (20 c) it should jump up to 12-1400...   Apr 8 2023, 11:11 PM
r_towle   At cold start (20 c) it should jump up to 12-140...   Apr 19 2023, 05:55 PM
emerygt350   You need to get the Haynes manual for the 914 4. ...   Apr 9 2023, 06:43 AM
chrispovoas   You need to get the Haynes manual for the 914 4. ...   Apr 10 2023, 01:54 AM
TonyH   Hi guys, Chris from New Zealand here....finally b...   Apr 9 2023, 08:56 AM
mgphoto   Hello and very nice car, your problem for the long...   Apr 9 2023, 09:50 AM
chrispovoas   Hello and very nice car, your problem for the lon...   Apr 10 2023, 01:56 AM
emerygt350   That is a possibility, but I would save that for a...   Apr 9 2023, 09:53 AM
rhodyguy   With the tank empty, you can look in the tank (fla...   Apr 9 2023, 11:50 AM
chrispovoas   With the tank empty, you can look in the tank (fl...   Apr 10 2023, 01:57 AM
sixnotfour   flashlight , look in gas tank ,replace fuel filter...   Apr 9 2023, 12:07 PM
Jamie   flashlight , look in gas tank ,replace fuel filte...   Apr 9 2023, 01:13 PM
chrispovoas   flashlight , look in gas tank ,replace fuel filt...   Apr 10 2023, 01:58 AM
rhodyguy   As the pump creates a vacuum the fouled sock sucks...   Apr 9 2023, 01:34 PM
r_towle   Pull tank Replace fuel sock and all rubber lines u...   Apr 9 2023, 05:33 PM
chrispovoas   Pull tank Replace fuel sock and all rubber lines ...   Apr 10 2023, 02:06 AM
emerygt350   Wow, you guys really want to pull this poor guys t...   Apr 9 2023, 05:46 PM
Superhawk996   Wow, you guys really want to pull this poor guys ...   Apr 9 2023, 06:25 PM
r_towle   How long did the car sit with bad fuel in it? Toda...   Apr 9 2023, 06:05 PM
emerygt350   If the car idles after warm, and idles at 1300ish ...   Apr 10 2023, 05:05 AM
chrispovoas   If the car idles after warm, and idles at 1300ish...   Apr 11 2023, 02:06 AM
KELTY360   My $.02 (US). It's not vapor lock. If it ...   Apr 10 2023, 06:21 PM
wonkipop   My $.02 (US). It's not vapor lock. If it...   Apr 10 2023, 06:30 PM
chrispovoas   [quote name='KELTY360' post='3070751' date='Apr 1...   Apr 11 2023, 02:11 AM
914_teener   [quote name='KELTY360' post='3070751' date='Apr 1...   Apr 19 2023, 06:15 PM
wonkipop   [quote name='wonkipop' post='3070752' date='Apr 1...   Apr 19 2023, 07:01 PM
chrispovoas   My $.02 (US). It's not vapor lock. If it...   Apr 11 2023, 02:09 AM
emerygt350   Hmmm. That cht for the fi is nla if I remember cor...   Apr 11 2023, 05:12 AM
BeatNavy   Google pbanders d-jet and you will find all the i...   Apr 11 2023, 05:32 AM
emerygt350   [quote name='emerygt350' post='3070829' date='Apr...   Apr 11 2023, 06:27 AM
emerygt350   I was just thinking... you may want to post some ...   Apr 11 2023, 06:30 AM
chrispovoas   I was just thinking... you may want to post some...   Apr 16 2023, 12:38 AM
chrispovoas   Thanks for all of your suggestions so far guys, ju...   Apr 16 2023, 12:45 AM
CCE   In my case (with webers, no FI) the coil connector...   Apr 16 2023, 09:16 AM
chrispovoas   In my case (with webers, no FI) the coil connecto...   Apr 17 2023, 01:17 AM
porschetub   In my case (with webers, no FI) the coil connect...   Apr 19 2023, 05:34 PM
ConeDodger   I had a fuel pump fail at an autocross. Sputtered ...   Apr 16 2023, 09:28 AM
r_towle   I just pulled the tank in a car that sat, with fue...   Apr 19 2023, 06:22 PM


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