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> Is it the fule pump?, Spluttering and stalling!
chrispovoas
post Apr 8 2023, 04:00 AM
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Hi guys, Chris from New Zealand here....finally bought myself a 914! Shes a '73 2.0 with original FI. Had her about a week, after standing for 8 years.

Previous owner spent some time and money getting her on the road as part of the sale to me, but still a bit of work to be done! I'll try and attach a picture.

Took her for a shakedown run today for about 3 hours but then she started coughing and spluttering then stalled at about 60mph. Coasted to a halt, ignition on/off and away she went again for about half an hour.. Same thing again, ignition on/off and all was well for another 20 min.. This went on and on and the intervals between spluttering and stalling got more frequent until i just about made it home.

Felt like fuel rather than electrical... Could it be the fuel pump, or any other ideas?

I have a feeling I'll be using the forum quite a bit (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Nice to meet everyone!
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post Apr 8 2023, 05:19 PM
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Hi guys, Chris from New Zealand here....finally bought myself a 914! Shes a '73 2.0 with original FI. Had her about a week, after standing for 8 years.

Previous owner spent some time and money getting her on the road as part of the sale to me, but still a bit of work to be done! I'll try and attach a picture.

Took her for a shakedown run today for about 3 hours but then she started coughing and spluttering then stalled at about 60mph. Coasted to a halt, ignition on/off and away she went again for about half an hour.. Same thing again, ignition on/off and all was well for another 20 min.. This went on and on and the intervals between spluttering and stalling got more frequent until i just about made it home.

Felt like fuel rather than electrical... Could it be the fuel pump, or any other ideas?

I have a feeling I'll be using the forum quite a bit (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Nice to meet everyone!


(IMG:style_emoticons/default/welcome.png) greeting from fellow NZ 914 owner .
As beatnavy mentioned check the grounds, connections, relays etc as it could be electrical,if it all looks ok check plugs ,leads ,cap,points and plugs ,could be something simple like a dying coil or points out of adjustment/or just worn out.
Reset / check valve clearances then start it up and check timing if you have a stable idle otherwise you need to make sure your aux air valve is working,you can test this by diconnecting the power wire and if it still runs the same the valve is stuck and not opening.
See how you go ,you can email me for a chat anytime ,like to keep up with NZ owners and chat ,cheers.
Oh and forgot to mention ,real nice looking car (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) .

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post Apr 8 2023, 09:43 PM
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Hi guys, Chris from New Zealand here....finally bought myself a 914! Shes a '73 2.0 with original FI. Had her about a week, after standing for 8 years.

Previous owner spent some time and money getting her on the road as part of the sale to me, but still a bit of work to be done! I'll try and attach a picture.

Took her for a shakedown run today for about 3 hours but then she started coughing and spluttering then stalled at about 60mph. Coasted to a halt, ignition on/off and away she went again for about half an hour.. Same thing again, ignition on/off and all was well for another 20 min.. This went on and on and the intervals between spluttering and stalling got more frequent until i just about made it home.

Felt like fuel rather than electrical... Could it be the fuel pump, or any other ideas?

I have a feeling I'll be using the forum quite a bit (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Nice to meet everyone!


(IMG:style_emoticons/default/welcome.png) greeting from fellow NZ 914 owner .
As beatnavy mentioned check the grounds, connections, relays etc as it could be electrical,if it all looks ok check plugs ,leads ,cap,points and plugs ,could be something simple like a dying coil or points out of adjustment/or just worn out.
Reset / check valve clearances then start it up and check timing if you have a stable idle otherwise you need to make sure your aux air valve is working,you can test this by diconnecting the power wire and if it still runs the same the valve is stuck and not opening.
See how you go ,you can email me for a chat anytime ,like to keep up with NZ owners and chat ,cheers.
Oh and forgot to mention ,real nice looking car (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) .



Thanks Porschetub! where are you based?

This was Alistair Moffats car in Auckland. He's done a fair bit of work to get ot on the road, mostly what needed to be done to pass a WoF and get it drivable, so brakes, clutch, gear shift springs, bushes, some FI hoses etc etc... It drives really well. feels tight and responsive, just the stalling issue to report after a drive from Auck to Mt Maunganui and back in the same day... The usual rattles and squeeks prevail, but nothing that some online shopping at Auto Altanta cant fix! (where do you go for your parts?).

Started ok this morning.. bit of a flutter, but a boot full got it idling.. Seems to idle high at around 1200/1400 rpm.
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QUOTE(chrispovoas @ Apr 9 2023, 04:43 PM) *

QUOTE(porschetub @ Apr 8 2023, 05:19 PM) *

QUOTE(chrispovoas @ Apr 8 2023, 11:00 PM) *

Hi guys, Chris from New Zealand here....finally bought myself a 914! Shes a '73 2.0 with original FI. Had her about a week, after standing for 8 years.

Previous owner spent some time and money getting her on the road as part of the sale to me, but still a bit of work to be done! I'll try and attach a picture.

Took her for a shakedown run today for about 3 hours but then she started coughing and spluttering then stalled at about 60mph. Coasted to a halt, ignition on/off and away she went again for about half an hour.. Same thing again, ignition on/off and all was well for another 20 min.. This went on and on and the intervals between spluttering and stalling got more frequent until i just about made it home.

Felt like fuel rather than electrical... Could it be the fuel pump, or any other ideas?

I have a feeling I'll be using the forum quite a bit (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Nice to meet everyone!


(IMG:style_emoticons/default/welcome.png) greeting from fellow NZ 914 owner .
As beatnavy mentioned check the grounds, connections, relays etc as it could be electrical,if it all looks ok check plugs ,leads ,cap,points and plugs ,could be something simple like a dying coil or points out of adjustment/or just worn out.
Reset / check valve clearances then start it up and check timing if you have a stable idle otherwise you need to make sure your aux air valve is working,you can test this by diconnecting the power wire and if it still runs the same the valve is stuck and not opening.
See how you go ,you can email me for a chat anytime ,like to keep up with NZ owners and chat ,cheers.
Oh and forgot to mention ,real nice looking car (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) .



Thanks Porschetub! where are you based?

This was Alistair Moffats car in Auckland. He's done a fair bit of work to get ot on the road, mostly what needed to be done to pass a WoF and get it drivable, so brakes, clutch, gear shift springs, bushes, some FI hoses etc etc... It drives really well. feels tight and responsive, just the stalling issue to report after a drive from Auck to Mt Maunganui and back in the same day... The usual rattles and squeeks prevail, but nothing that some online shopping at Auto Altanta cant fix! (where do you go for your parts?).

Started ok this morning.. bit of a flutter, but a boot full got it idling.. Seems to idle high at around 1200/1400 rpm.

I'am based in Nelson bays in a 'one horse' town over the bay called Motueka ,moved here a couple of yrs ago .
I have bought parts from mainly from the west coast of the US as it keeps the crazy shipping cost a bit less crazy ,I can email you my favourites if you like .
Sellers on here are great also as there prices are generally very keen and NEVER had an issue with quality .
Sounds like your cold idle is in the ballpark so your AAR must be working ,could be an air leak to fix or an adjustment of the air screw,best to check your timing before doing this as it could be over- advanced or the distributor is a bit gummed up which is very common with 205 number units..
Sounds like a bit already been done so thats a step ahead in terms of labour ,time and $$$.
Included a pic of my NZ new car ,cheers.
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chrispovoas   Is it the fule pump?   Apr 8 2023, 04:00 AM
emerygt350   Welcome, and that's a pretty car! I would...   Apr 8 2023, 04:53 AM
chrispovoas   Welcome, and that's a pretty car! I woul...   Apr 8 2023, 05:42 AM
chrispovoas   Welcome, and that's a pretty car! I woul...   Apr 8 2023, 09:46 PM
StarBear   Congratulations and welcome to our community! ...   Apr 8 2023, 05:47 AM
chrispovoas   Congratulations and welcome to our community...   Apr 8 2023, 09:44 PM
BeatNavy   Beautiful car. Welcome to the World :beer2: Yo...   Apr 8 2023, 06:02 AM
chrispovoas   Beautiful car. Welcome to the World :beer2: Y...   Apr 8 2023, 09:48 PM
rfinegan   Trust you instincts. The Djet is not a very compli...   Apr 8 2023, 06:45 AM
chrispovoas   Trust you instincts. The Djet is not a very compl...   Apr 8 2023, 09:50 PM
emerygt350   the attachment point on the rail for the fuel pres...   Apr 8 2023, 07:07 AM
chrispovoas   the attachment point on the rail for the fuel pre...   Apr 8 2023, 09:57 PM
technicalninja   Hi guys, Chris from New Zealand here....finally b...   Apr 8 2023, 08:07 AM
chrispovoas   [quote name='chrispovoas' post='3070333' date='Ap...   Apr 8 2023, 10:04 PM
Olympic 914   Could be blockage of the screen in the fuel tank, ...   Apr 8 2023, 08:16 AM
porschetub   Hi guys, Chris from New Zealand here....finally b...   Apr 8 2023, 05:19 PM
chrispovoas   Hi guys, Chris from New Zealand here....finally ...   Apr 8 2023, 09:43 PM
porschetub   [quote name='porschetub' post='3070433' date='Apr...   Apr 9 2023, 02:49 PM
chrispovoas   [quote name='chrispovoas' post='3070479' date='Ap...   Apr 10 2023, 02:03 AM
chrispovoas   And thanks for your email re where to buy from Dea...   Apr 10 2023, 02:11 AM
chrispovoas   [quote name='chrispovoas' post='3070479' date='Ap...   Apr 16 2023, 01:40 AM
emerygt350   1400 is where it should idle at cold start. Let...   Apr 8 2023, 10:05 PM
chrispovoas   1400 is where it should idle at cold start. Le...   Apr 8 2023, 10:09 PM
emerygt350   At cold start (20 c) it should jump up to 12-1400 ...   Apr 8 2023, 10:14 PM
chrispovoas   At cold start (20 c) it should jump up to 12-1400...   Apr 8 2023, 11:11 PM
r_towle   At cold start (20 c) it should jump up to 12-140...   Apr 19 2023, 05:55 PM
emerygt350   You need to get the Haynes manual for the 914 4. ...   Apr 9 2023, 06:43 AM
chrispovoas   You need to get the Haynes manual for the 914 4. ...   Apr 10 2023, 01:54 AM
TonyH   Hi guys, Chris from New Zealand here....finally b...   Apr 9 2023, 08:56 AM
mgphoto   Hello and very nice car, your problem for the long...   Apr 9 2023, 09:50 AM
chrispovoas   Hello and very nice car, your problem for the lon...   Apr 10 2023, 01:56 AM
emerygt350   That is a possibility, but I would save that for a...   Apr 9 2023, 09:53 AM
rhodyguy   With the tank empty, you can look in the tank (fla...   Apr 9 2023, 11:50 AM
chrispovoas   With the tank empty, you can look in the tank (fl...   Apr 10 2023, 01:57 AM
sixnotfour   flashlight , look in gas tank ,replace fuel filter...   Apr 9 2023, 12:07 PM
Jamie   flashlight , look in gas tank ,replace fuel filte...   Apr 9 2023, 01:13 PM
chrispovoas   flashlight , look in gas tank ,replace fuel filt...   Apr 10 2023, 01:58 AM
rhodyguy   As the pump creates a vacuum the fouled sock sucks...   Apr 9 2023, 01:34 PM
r_towle   Pull tank Replace fuel sock and all rubber lines u...   Apr 9 2023, 05:33 PM
chrispovoas   Pull tank Replace fuel sock and all rubber lines ...   Apr 10 2023, 02:06 AM
emerygt350   Wow, you guys really want to pull this poor guys t...   Apr 9 2023, 05:46 PM
Superhawk996   Wow, you guys really want to pull this poor guys ...   Apr 9 2023, 06:25 PM
r_towle   How long did the car sit with bad fuel in it? Toda...   Apr 9 2023, 06:05 PM
emerygt350   If the car idles after warm, and idles at 1300ish ...   Apr 10 2023, 05:05 AM
chrispovoas   If the car idles after warm, and idles at 1300ish...   Apr 11 2023, 02:06 AM
KELTY360   My $.02 (US). It's not vapor lock. If it ...   Apr 10 2023, 06:21 PM
wonkipop   My $.02 (US). It's not vapor lock. If it...   Apr 10 2023, 06:30 PM
chrispovoas   [quote name='KELTY360' post='3070751' date='Apr 1...   Apr 11 2023, 02:11 AM
914_teener   [quote name='KELTY360' post='3070751' date='Apr 1...   Apr 19 2023, 06:15 PM
wonkipop   [quote name='wonkipop' post='3070752' date='Apr 1...   Apr 19 2023, 07:01 PM
chrispovoas   My $.02 (US). It's not vapor lock. If it...   Apr 11 2023, 02:09 AM
emerygt350   Hmmm. That cht for the fi is nla if I remember cor...   Apr 11 2023, 05:12 AM
BeatNavy   Google pbanders d-jet and you will find all the i...   Apr 11 2023, 05:32 AM
emerygt350   [quote name='emerygt350' post='3070829' date='Apr...   Apr 11 2023, 06:27 AM
emerygt350   I was just thinking... you may want to post some ...   Apr 11 2023, 06:30 AM
chrispovoas   I was just thinking... you may want to post some...   Apr 16 2023, 12:38 AM
chrispovoas   Thanks for all of your suggestions so far guys, ju...   Apr 16 2023, 12:45 AM
CCE   In my case (with webers, no FI) the coil connector...   Apr 16 2023, 09:16 AM
chrispovoas   In my case (with webers, no FI) the coil connecto...   Apr 17 2023, 01:17 AM
porschetub   In my case (with webers, no FI) the coil connect...   Apr 19 2023, 05:34 PM
ConeDodger   I had a fuel pump fail at an autocross. Sputtered ...   Apr 16 2023, 09:28 AM
r_towle   I just pulled the tank in a car that sat, with fue...   Apr 19 2023, 06:22 PM


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