OT: Bosch Kitchen Ovens, Pieces Of Junk Options

[windforfun]

They're overpriced pieces of shit that even Bosch can't repair. Don't buy one.

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[mepstein]

We just buy normal brands from the big box stores and they seem to last long enough that when they need replacement, I’m not unhappy. Other than replacing a belt and bushing on our dryer ($35 & 45 minutes) I haven’t repaired or replaced an appliance in years. LG, Samsung, Maytag, etc. Nothing high end. One of our recently replaced hvac has taken more repairs than it should but it has a 10 year warranty so at least it’s not any money out of my pocket. I also don’t buy expensive kitchen and clothes appliances so if they need replacement, it’s a couple hundred bucks.

My dad buys high end appliances that seem to need repairs more often than I would expect. They are too expensive to just replace without digging deep. They look high end but don’t act like it.

[Unobtanium-inc]

We just buy normal brands from the big box stores and they seem to last long enough that when they need replacement, I’m not unhappy. Other than replacing a belt and bushing on our dryer ($35 & 45 minutes) I haven’t repaired or replaced an appliance in years. LG, Samsung, Maytag, etc. Nothing high end. One of our recently replaced hvac has taken more repairs than it should but it has a 10 year warranty so at least it’s not any money out of my pocket. I also don’t buy expensive kitchen and clothes appliances so if they need replacement, it’s a couple hundred bucks.

My dad buys high end appliances that seem to need repairs more often than I would expect. They are too expensive to just replace without digging deep. They look high end but don’t act like it.

My dishwasher saga went back 2 years before the BOSCH. We bought a middle of the road dishwasher, an LG I think, it crapped out after 2 years. Called a fix it man, he said chuck it, they can't be fixed. That's why we paid double for the BOSCH thinking it would be better, it wasn't. I've now bought what is hopefully the last dishwasher I will ever see, guaranteed 20 years. Miele, German made, supposed to be the best, I hope so for the price.

[wonkipop]

We just buy normal brands from the big box stores and they seem to last long enough that when they need replacement, I’m not unhappy. Other than replacing a belt and bushing on our dryer ($35 & 45 minutes) I haven’t repaired or replaced an appliance in years. LG, Samsung, Maytag, etc. Nothing high end. One of our recently replaced hvac has taken more repairs than it should but it has a 10 year warranty so at least it’s not any money out of my pocket. I also don’t buy expensive kitchen and clothes appliances so if they need replacement, it’s a couple hundred bucks.

My dad buys high end appliances that seem to need repairs more often than I would expect. They are too expensive to just replace without digging deep. They look high end but don’t act like it.

My dishwasher saga went back 2 years before the BOSCH. We bought a middle of the road dishwasher, an LG I think, it crapped out after 2 years. Called a fix it man, he said chuck it, they can't be fixed. That's why we paid double for the BOSCH thinking it would be better, it wasn't. I've now bought what is hopefully the last dishwasher I will ever see, guaranteed 20 years. Miele, German made, supposed to be the best, I hope so for the price.

it should be good.
if miele is anything like they are in australia they back it up with trained tech guys who roam the city attending to any problems -- and also with general maitenance on old machines. they are the only company who do that here. its been that way for a long time. hopefully their sales and back up is as professional in the USA.
the stuff is good. but like anything it can break down. but when it does they usually can fix it and usually it makes economic sense unless its real real old and the part is simply unobtainable like its getting with 914s. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

i like the miele techs. good to deal with. one of the techs i ran into reckons there are dishwashers and ovens of theirs out there that are 40 years old and still running. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) an oven i can understand. its remarkable that a dishwasher will still run after 40 years. but they will. (or at least they used to.....i mean this is a world where even mercedes benz has gone down hill!).

[Unobtanium-inc]

We just buy normal brands from the big box stores and they seem to last long enough that when they need replacement, I’m not unhappy. Other than replacing a belt and bushing on our dryer ($35 & 45 minutes) I haven’t repaired or replaced an appliance in years. LG, Samsung, Maytag, etc. Nothing high end. One of our recently replaced hvac has taken more repairs than it should but it has a 10 year warranty so at least it’s not any money out of my pocket. I also don’t buy expensive kitchen and clothes appliances so if they need replacement, it’s a couple hundred bucks.

My dad buys high end appliances that seem to need repairs more often than I would expect. They are too expensive to just replace without digging deep. They look high end but don’t act like it.

My dishwasher saga went back 2 years before the BOSCH. We bought a middle of the road dishwasher, an LG I think, it crapped out after 2 years. Called a fix it man, he said chuck it, they can't be fixed. That's why we paid double for the BOSCH thinking it would be better, it wasn't. I've now bought what is hopefully the last dishwasher I will ever see, guaranteed 20 years. Miele, German made, supposed to be the best, I hope so for the price.

it should be good.
if miele is anything like they are in australia they back it up with trained tech guys who roam the city attending to any problems -- and also with general maitenance on old machines. they are the only company who do that here. its been that way for a long time. hopefully their sales and back up is as professional in the USA.
the stuff is good. but like anything it can break down. but when it does they usually can fix it and usually it makes economic sense unless its real real old and the part is simply unobtainable like its getting with 914s. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

i like the miele techs. good to deal with. one of the techs i ran into reckons there are dishwashers and ovens of theirs out there that are 40 years old and still running. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) an oven i can understand. its remarkable that a dishwasher will still run after 40 years. but they will. (or at least they used to.....i mean this is a world where even mercedes benz has gone down hill!).

Don't get me started on Benz. I bought an 07 CLK, found out after the 4th time in a shop in a year it was actually a Chrysler Lebaron with Benz badges, it was a real POS. I traded it for a 2012 E350, now that's a Benz, made in Stuttgart. Nothing but oil changes, just runs and runs.

[Superhawk996]

Don't get me started on Benz. I bought an 07 CLK, found out after the 4th time in a shop in a year it was actually a Chrysler Lebaron with Benz badges, it was a real POS. I traded it for a 2012 E350, now that's a Benz, made in Stuttgart. Nothing but oil changes, just runs and runs.

Fully understand that Mercedes of that era were not quality vehicles.

However let’s be clear, Mercedes didn’t use any Chrysler platform(s) as the basis for their vehicles in that 2007 era. In fact, the parts sharing was in the other direction with Chrysler often being forced by Daimler to use Mercedes parts and designs.

Case in point the Chrysler Crossfire which was based off SLK platform. Same with the Chrysler 300 that inherited parts and designs from the E-class like the transmission, parking brake, and suspension architecture.

Later on in 2011 the Jeep Grand Cherokee and the Mercedes ML did share a platform. Again in this instance, the Mercedes platform was the initial basis of sharing. Most of the advanced engineering and packaging having been started and committed to before the split of Daimler and Chrysler.

[Unobtanium-inc]

Don't get me started on Benz. I bought an 07 CLK, found out after the 4th time in a shop in a year it was actually a Chrysler Lebaron with Benz badges, it was a real POS. I traded it for a 2012 E350, now that's a Benz, made in Stuttgart. Nothing but oil changes, just runs and runs.

Fully understand that Mercedes of that era were not quality vehicles.

However let’s be clear, Mercedes didn’t use any Chrysler platform(s) as the basis for their vehicles in that 2007 era. In fact, the parts sharing was in the other direction with Chrysler often being forced by Daimler to use Mercedes parts and designs.

Case in point the Chrysler Crossfire which was based off SLK platform. Same with the Chrysler 300 that inherited parts and designs from the E-class like the transmission, parking brake, and suspension architecture.

Later on in 2011 the Jeep Grand Cherokee and the Mercedes ML did share a platform. Again in this instance, the Mercedes platform was the initial basis of sharing. Most of the advanced engineering and packaging having been started and committed to before the split of Daimler and Chrysler.

What about the ill-fated R class, wasn't that built on the Chrysler Town and Country mini-van platform. That was a POS too. My brother had one, burned through brakes every 10,000 miles