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> @StarBear L Jetronic Temp Sensor II AFM
wonkipop
post Jun 5 2023, 03:12 PM
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@StarBear .


here is what i have on the Temp Sensor II inbuilt into the AFM on the 1.8 L Jetronic.

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i could be wrong but i don't think there is any effective way to test the air temp sensor in the AFM on our adam/eve in the garden of eden L Jetronic system. that sensor is not wired in separately.

but maybe there is an expert here who knows.

- in relation to the problem you are having with hot days and ultra high humidity causing the idle to drop to barely running - i'm not sure the symptom fits a faulty Temp Sensor II in the AFM. others here might know better. I would not have thought a faulty sensor would cause that dramatic a result. Temp Sensor 1 (CHT) - yes. but Temp Sensor II no.

i am sure @Van B will pipe in with a more learned view.

I would have thought Temp Sensor 2 fault would make the car run rich.
I think that is how it would work. but again i am probably wrong.
i'd have to think about it.
most trouble shooting literature i can dig up says failure mode causes car to run richer generally. increased fuel consumption.
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post Jun 6 2023, 10:14 AM
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Don’t want to get off topic but isn’t the temp sensor I only on the ‘75/‘76 models (hence the 7 pin connector)?
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QUOTE(Rob-O @ Jun 6 2023, 10:14 AM) *

Don’t want to get off topic but isn’t the temp sensor I only on the ‘75/‘76 models (hence the 7 pin connector)?


here you go @Rob-O

different publications/tech manuals swap around which one to call I or II but to avoid confusion most call it II in the AFM. so i'll go back to calling it II for this. but for clarity, the one in the AFM.

74 temp sensor II in the AFM (bosch AFM 0 280 200 001)

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75 temp sensor II (bosch 0 280 201 002)

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its in both, in the same place, but modified design in the 75.
sticks further into airstream. altered shape of probe.
and its wired in separately in the 75.
resulting in one extra pin to make it a 7 pin. the 7th pin is for the temp sensor.
(although its not the pin at the end - its added somewhere in the middle from memory, been a while since i looked at those pin diagrams).
and likely something different going on in the ECU as well?
different ECU in the 75 from 74.

as to how its wired in and how its fixed into the AFM body in the 74s exactly i don't know in detail as i have never had mine apart. but thats the issue with the 74s. its not as easy to dig it out and replace it as a single component. i'm guessing it could be done if you had the sensor and you knew what you were doing.
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wonkipop   @StarBear L Jetronic Temp Sensor II AFM   Jun 5 2023, 03:12 PM
StarBear   Got it! Will add to my other write up and coll...   Jun 5 2023, 07:50 PM
MartyYeoman   :popcorn:   Jun 5 2023, 10:41 PM
ClayPerrine   Temp sensor 2 is used for gross fuel adjustments.....   Jun 6 2023, 06:33 AM
Rob-O   Don’t want to get off topic but isn’t the temp...   Jun 6 2023, 10:14 AM
StarBear   Don’t want to get off topic but isn’t the tem...   Jun 6 2023, 11:28 AM
wonkipop   Don’t want to get off topic but isn’t the tem...   Jun 6 2023, 08:34 PM
StarBear   @[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showu...   Jun 6 2023, 12:47 PM
wonkipop   @[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?show...   Jun 6 2023, 04:48 PM
StarBear   As always, seems like yet again we’re “special...   Jun 6 2023, 06:59 PM
wonkipop   As always, seems like yet again we’re “specia...   Jun 7 2023, 04:52 AM
ClayPerrine   In an 74 L-Jet air flow meter, the temp sensor sh...   Jun 7 2023, 05:38 AM
Van B   Sorry for being out of pocket guys… Temp just t...   Jun 7 2023, 04:42 PM
wonkipop   @Van B those middle two tables you posted are fo...   Jun 9 2023, 12:44 AM
Van B   I yeah that was frustrating to not be able to test...   Jun 9 2023, 08:39 AM
StarBear   Great discourse! Informative and methodical, t...   Jun 9 2023, 09:32 AM
wonkipop   Great discourse! Informative and methodical, ...   Jun 9 2023, 03:49 PM
ClayPerrine   There is a way to test the temp sender in a 6-Pin ...   Jun 9 2023, 10:23 AM
wonkipop   There is a way to test the temp sender in a 6-Pin...   Jun 9 2023, 03:41 PM
ClayPerrine   Finally got up int he attic this morning to get an...   Jun 13 2023, 06:32 AM
StarBear   @clayperrine Very informative! Questions: Doe...   Jun 13 2023, 08:55 AM
ClayPerrine   [b]@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?s...   Jun 13 2023, 09:27 AM
StarBear   And another twist - I have a supposed NOS AFM for ...   Jun 13 2023, 09:36 AM
StarBear   Have data for the NOS/lightly used AFM. Approximat...   Jun 13 2023, 12:01 PM
wonkipop   @clayperrine thanks for the AFM pics and info. f...   Jun 13 2023, 09:03 PM
StarBear   Now this just got real interesting! Opened th...   Jun 15 2023, 10:34 AM
StarBear   @[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sh...   Jun 15 2023, 03:06 PM
ClayPerrine   The original CAN be tested. But the values will be...   Jun 16 2023, 05:57 AM
StarBear   The original CAN be tested. But the values will b...   Jun 16 2023, 07:24 AM
StarBear   Ok; tested the current unit per Clay's suggest...   Jun 16 2023, 02:26 PM
wonkipop   @StarBear mine is the same as your original. has...   Jun 16 2023, 07:16 PM


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