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> Crayford rhd 914, Genuine car?
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post Jun 10 2023, 05:24 AM
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Hi - JD Classics in the UK have for sale a rhd 914 that they say is a genuine Crayford conversion. Registration number is NRX 538K. The car started life in the US and then was exported to Australia (doesn't say when) where the conversion was done. JD say that it is one of only 9 cars that were converted by Crayford. From the research I have managed to do it sounds like this cannot be true. I have asked for some proof of their claim but they have gone quiet. Could this car however have been converted under licence using genuine Crayford parts or is it more likely to be a conversion just done by some garage in Australia as I understand quite a few cars were converted there in this way.
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If it was actually converted in Australia, it can't be a Crayford conversion. It also has an ashtray, a feature missing from Crayford RHD dashboards...
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post Jun 10 2023, 09:36 PM
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QUOTE(KSCarrera @ Jun 10 2023, 08:27 AM) *

If it was actually converted in Australia, it can't be a Crayford conversion. It also has an ashtray, a feature missing from Crayford RHD dashboards...
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spot on.

crayfords parked it on the tunnel.
where they also parked the radio.
no room on the left hand side for the depth of a standard radio back then in the space left between dash and bulkhead.

also the glove box is just big enough to put a pair of sunglasses in for the same reason! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

the give way on all crayfords cars is the hand stitched dash over the fibreglass mould.
vinyl skinning was a high end industrial process back then that only the manufacturers had access to. the crayfords dash was pretty good but it still looked hand made.

another give away is that crayfords did not fill in the left hand side hand brake sill panel.
you ended up with two sill panels depressions, one on each side.

and one more was they mirrored the instrument binnacle dial layout.
this was something porsche never did on its other right hand drive models.
a right hand drive 911 has the same binnacle layout as the left hand drive.
it is not mirrored. it is simply transposed.
most of the 914s converted in aus later in the 90s follow porsche practice.

and if you look behind the pedal board a crayfords car doesn't use a 911 right hand drive pedal cluster. it uses the original 914 pedal cluster and they modified it. they cut and welded the brake arm and used a welded section that shifted the allignment of the brake pedal right across to be near the accelerator. they fitted only the straight clutch arm rod piece from the 911 cluster. they did this for a reason and it wasn't being cheap.
a 911 rhd pedal cluster does not in fact work so well on a 914 which is a much wider car than the 911. with a 911 cluster you really do sit very diagonally to work the pedals.
its one thing crayfords got really right. i copied it on my car exactly.
most of the aus converted 914s use a rhd 911 pedal cluster. it made it easy but it also made it not quite so good. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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pep1   Crayford rhd 914   Jun 10 2023, 05:24 AM
KELTY360   Can't say if it's genuine, but there has b...   Jun 10 2023, 08:13 AM
KSCarrera   If it was actually converted in Australia, it can...   Jun 10 2023, 08:27 AM
wonkipop   If it was actually converted in Australia, it can...   Jun 10 2023, 09:36 PM
JeffBowlsby   Exaggeration and flowery sales ads are seldom accu...   Jun 10 2023, 11:20 AM
SirAndy   https://woodham-mortimer.com/Cars/For-Sale/...05-0...   Jun 10 2023, 11:27 AM
arbitrary   Someone here owns a Crayford conversion - http://w...   Jun 10 2023, 02:28 PM
davep   Wow, a 914 Coupe with 14" 4-bolt Fuchs. That ...   Jun 10 2023, 03:12 PM
dr914@autoatlanta.com   NO right hand drive 914 is genuine!   Jun 10 2023, 06:07 PM
wonkipop   NO right hand drive 914 is genuine! ONE VI...   Jun 10 2023, 09:09 PM
porschetub   NO right hand drive 914 is genuine! Relax Ge...   Jun 11 2023, 11:22 PM
wonkipop   NO right hand drive 914 is genuine! Relax G...   Jun 12 2023, 01:20 AM
porschetub   [quote name='porschetub' post='3083323' date='Jun...   Jun 12 2023, 02:54 PM
wonkipop   [quote name='porschetub' post='3083323' date='Ju...   Jun 12 2023, 05:16 PM
Dave_Darling   ... it seems very very very likely that one was ce...   Sep 12 2023, 05:09 PM
wonkipop   [quote name='wonkipop' post='3083477' date='Jun 1...   Sep 13 2023, 04:41 AM
Dave_Darling   ..........and - you have lined up to quotes as if...   Sep 18 2023, 05:04 PM
wonkipop   [quote name='wonkipop' post='3101597' date='Sep 1...   Sep 18 2023, 06:52 PM
wonkipop   [quote name='wonkipop' post='3101597' date='Sep 1...   Sep 18 2023, 07:14 PM
wonkipop   @[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showu...   Jun 10 2023, 08:58 PM
wonkipop   @pep1 dug up my filed images. picture is worth a...   Jun 10 2023, 10:34 PM
pep1   Many thanks to you all for answering my query in s...   Jun 11 2023, 04:53 AM
r_towle   So cool these exist. In a rhd car, is first and re...   Jun 12 2023, 03:16 PM
wonkipop   So cool these exist. In a rhd car, is first and r...   Jun 12 2023, 05:03 PM
ClayPerrine   So cool these exist. In a rhd car, is first and ...   Jun 14 2023, 01:08 AM
wonkipop   [quote name='wonkipop' post='3083474' date='Jun 1...   Jun 14 2023, 04:47 AM
wonkipop   @porschetub i think rusty french ended up owning...   Jun 12 2023, 05:27 PM
914Nuts   Hi - JD Classics in the UK have for sale a rhd 91...   Sep 12 2023, 10:14 AM
wonkipop   Hi - JD Classics in the UK have for sale a rhd 9...   Sep 12 2023, 03:45 PM
wonkipop   @914Nuts to give you a bit more context re austr...   Sep 12 2023, 04:07 PM
wonkipop   oddly enough an older north antarctica rhd convers...   Sep 18 2023, 07:14 AM
wonkipop   @[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showu...   Sep 18 2023, 08:39 PM
wonkipop   i dug up a bit more for you @Dave_Darling from m...   Sep 19 2023, 12:37 AM
flipb   Came across this Outlaw Garage video on YT of a 91...   Mar 7 2024, 03:22 PM
wonkipop   Came across this Outlaw Garage video on YT of a 9...   Mar 7 2024, 07:02 PM
JeffBowlsby   Fun fact. That silver 911 Turbo has the 1974 LE s...   Mar 7 2024, 10:08 PM
wonkipop   Fun fact. That silver 911 Turbo has the 1974 LE ...   Mar 7 2024, 10:25 PM
wonkipop   oh yes - forgot to mention. the paris show car got...   Mar 7 2024, 10:31 PM


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